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[–] CountMonte 242 points 1 year ago (85 children)

Our mortgage is $2600 month. My wife has a much better paying job than me. I make $2200 a month after taxes/deductions. She is currently going through cancer treatments and although everything is looking positive it really got me thinking about what the hell does life look like for my family if something happens to my wife?

I've had the same bus driving job for 23 years. I'm undereducated. A 2 bedroom, 1 bathroom apartment is $1600 month here. I don't know how I'd ever be able to take care of myself and two kids.

They want us to have 80k+ in school debt so you can be allowed to have mortgage debt or rent and own nothing. I don't know where I'm going with this but I'm just bummed out about life right now.

[–] DoomBot5 88 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's what life insurance polices are for. Will be pretty hard to get one with her cancer diagnosis though.

[–] Saeveo 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Are you not required to have a joint life assurance policy as a condition of a mortgage in the US?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol no, the bank doesn’t care, they’ll just take your house if you can’t pay

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You literally beat me to this reply by like 4 minutes haha. Banks were giving variable mortgages to people who could barely afford current rates, they don't give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I would never ever take an adjustable rate mortgage. That is just begging to get fucked. Like right now for example. My mortgage is like 4.2% but if it were an adjustable id be at like 6+% and be out of a house.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Not anywhere that I've seen, just home owners insurance and mortgage insurance if you pay less than 20% down.

[–] Denalduh 5 points 1 year ago

Nope, at least not for my mortgage. The only thing that was required was a home owners insurance policy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I bought last year and there was nothing in the process that wanted either of us to have life insurance.

[–] Maggoty 3 points 1 year ago

In the US they want you to default. They can flip the house for more than you owe them.

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[–] AeonFelis 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Love how everyone in this subthread are sure they all live in the same country with the same rules and same banking system.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Globalization and capitalism babyy

Not a fan of the latter but that's life ☹️

[–] FlyingSquid 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm in exactly the same boat as you. Undereducated, lower paying job than my wife, mortgage, etc. I've frequently had panicked thoughts about what I would do if she died. And we have a kid, which makes it even worse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I was never really scared of much until I had a kid.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Part of the reason my partner and I don't want kids. It's almost impossible to raise them alone and she has a preexisting condition that she wouldn't want to pass on to them. If she passes away I could always just go live in my car by the beach and be fine. Wouldn't be able to do that very well with a kid.

[–] solstice 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Consider term life insurance? (Not whole life which is a ripoff.) It's usually pretty cheap for a 20 year policy that'll give you a few hundred grand if the worst happens. Like literally $20-$50/month. I'm not a salesman, don't work in insurance, just a suggestion.

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