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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It stands for "two spirit," which is an Indigenous term for a gender identity similar to being transgender. Canada has been making a more concerted effort to acknowledge and respect Indigenous views and traditions, so it's added to the LGBT+ acronym in Canada

[–] KidsTryThisAtHome 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have no idea what any of this means lol. How's it different from the T? If they "added" it on, then where did the + go? I'm old and confused and people are just people regardless so I have no idea what is the correct term for anyone anymore, y'all are just humans to me.

[–] NikkiDimes 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There are a lot of differing opinions on what should be used, LGBT, LGBTQ, LGBTQ+, LGBTQIA, etc, etc. I appreciate what inclusive acronyms try to do, but it does get very burdensome for non-queer people. I typically just use "queer", personally, though you obviously have to be a little careful with that one depending on context and perhaps it isn't always entirely encompassing. E.g. are intersex people "queer"? They just have abnormal sex chromosomes.

-A queer

[–] Shapillon 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

+1 for the simpler queer term.

There's also GRSM (Gender Relational and Sexual Minorities) which I find much more meaningful than LGBTQIA2S+. First it isn't a mash-up of a load of loosely related terms and, secondly, it also includes D/s relationships or ENM (Ethical Non Monogamy) for example. Sadly it doesn't seem to be getting much traction anywhere ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] NikkiDimes 3 points 1 year ago

Dang, I hadn't heard of that, but I like it! It's a shame it isn't very "catchy" I suppose lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Well imo, to make it easier for people... since the acronym started as LGBT, why not make it LGBT+. It is short and sweet, and less letters to remember.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I've always liked GSRM (Gender, Sexual, and Romantic Minorities). Unfortunately that probably won't catch on anytime soon.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GSRM sounds like a knock off of Grand Theft Auto. Where you cause chaos and crime in some Romanian cities.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure GSRM wrote A Song of Ice and Fire.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 2 points 1 year ago

I really only know a sports blogger by that name. Wait did he also write some fiction?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago

The 2, in this case, is about respecting Indigenous Canadians. I think it's warranted.

[–] applebusch 2 points 1 year ago

Trans generally means a man born in a woman's body or a woman born in a man's body. People who are trans prefer to be treated as the gender they are inside, whether or not they appear to be that gender externally, just like traditional men would take offense to being referred to as she or her. It's fine to see people as just people but you should acknowledge that you wouldn't want to be referred to as the wrong gender and neither do trans people.

Two-spirit appears to be more of an umbrella term for native American third genders, with no single general meaning. The third gender part appears to be important, meaning they are neither male nor female on the inside, regardless of what gender they may appear to be. Take this with a grain of salt since this is the first time I've heard the term and just looked it up. There appears to be some contention around the meaning, so I'm probably wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I always thought it was for 2A, for asexual and ally.

Having allies be a part of the acronym is a whole other debate though.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if you don't believe in spirits or souls?

[–] afraid_of_zombies 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You get kicked out of the rainbow and have to make your own rainbow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

When did the rainbow go from "it's OK that some people want to have sex with their own gender" to "you must believe in abstract religious concepts"