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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by STRIKINGdebate2 to c/mildlyinfuriating
 
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So you'd drink weeks-old kool-ade if it hadn't been refrigerated? Water and sugar is an ideal breeding ground and food source for a vast number of different bacteria.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you think we get toilet tank wine?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Master vitners and precise quality control, of course

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is nothing about a soft drink that will get bad or harmful even after months...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True if sealed, I meant the type of kool-ade you mix yourself, which gets gross after not very long. With this wrapped in paper, I'm doubting it's air tight.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's wrapped in plastic. Besides, I'm not sure there's actual sugar in those things. Most I've seen were all additives.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being wrapped in plastic has absolutely no effect on it. The bacteria likely to colonize are already in there, but keeping it frozen keeps them from multiplying, unless it melts. And many such colonies (botulism, for example) thrive in hypoxic environments, so being wrapped can actually make it worse. And corn syrup or any other substitute is just as bad as sugar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Brother, we used to buy freeze pops in the supermarket that came in liquid form, and then were frozen by us in our freezer. They're still sold this way. You're making something out of nothing, and then doubling down on that nothing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

A product intended to be sold that way. Steak and slim jims are both beef (in theory), but I wouldn't recommend storing them the same way...

I'm far from guaranteeing that the popsicle from the picture would make you sick, I'm just saying I wouldn't trust it with no telling how long it sat around melted before refreezing, and almost definitely not something processed for that type of storage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Besides, I’m not sure there’s actual sugar in those things.

High fructose corn syrup. Which, for all intents and purposes, is sugar.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

relevant user name.

Ever notice that you don't need to refrigerate candy? Processed sugar is such a bad food source for bacteria, you can actually use it as a preservative. The melted Popsicle will rot eventually, if it stays wet, but the likely first organism in will be a yeast.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

No. Candy is heated to extremely high temperatures while processing and has a low water content, which are very important for its sterilization and entirely different from something like this. And candy still goes bad if you wait long enough... Candy is more equivalent to something like fruit preserves/jelly, which use heat and sugar to sterilize and preserve, yet which still have to be refrigerated to maximize shelf-life/minimize contamination. So you're right that sugar can be used to preserve, but only by following a very different process.