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Pupils will be banned from wearing abayas, loose-fitting full-length robes worn by some Muslim women, in France's state-run schools, the education minister has said.

The rule will be applied as soon as the new school year starts on 4 September.

France has a strict ban on religious signs in state schools and government buildings, arguing that they violate secular laws.

Wearing a headscarf has been banned since 2004 in state-run schools.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I totally support that. https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/little-hijabi-a-little-girls-love-for-her-hijab/9781504319508.html Kids wearing hijabs, abayas (put any religious symbol here) must be considered as a form of child abuse. It is crucial to refrain from imposing outdated and fantastical beliefs onto young minds.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Abaya is cultural and not religious though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So why is it mandatory for women in Quater and Saudi Arabia ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because their law requires it for "modesty reasons", probably like a uniform of some sort, but it's not a religious garment in Islam. It covers the whole body except the head, feet and hands. Anyone wearing an Abaya outside of Qatar and Saudi Arabia is doing so for cultural reasons, not religious reasons.

These kinds of laws should not oppress culture, unless we want to see an extinction of diversity. They should exist solely to limit religious child indoctrination, and give children a fighting chance to make their own decisions with regard to religion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That's exactly what this law is doing by banning religious sign into the public school. Pretenting that the introduction of this clothe, absolutely not present into the French culture, has nothing to do with the religion is fallacious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Please don't do this. The culture finds its foundation entirely within religious beliefs, and the abaya stands as a tangible expression of this connection. From the Wikipedia: "The rationale for the abaya is often attributed to the Quranic quote, "O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters, and the believing women, to cover themselves with a loose garment. They will thus be recognised and no harm will come to them" (Qur'an 33:59,[2] translated by Ahmed Ali). This quotation is often given as the argument for wearing the abaya."

[–] assassin_aragorn 4 points 10 months ago

The cross is synonymous with Christianity, yet there's an exception in this law for small crosses. If you want to go down this path, you must ban everything, with no exceptions.