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Irritatingly, this suggests that Putin doesn't really know if his nukes work. If true, this badly breaks MAD.
Not really. Current estimates are that Russia has about 1,500 missiles deployed and ready to go. If we assume only 10% will actually lift off, and of those, only 10% will hit their target and detonate, that leaves 15 cities to be hit. Living near a potential target?
Me? I'm not far downhill from a National Lab; if their nukes work, I'm toast.
If any nuke hits, we're all toast.
What? Why would we assume this?
I'm assuming absolute crap maintenance of missiles and warheads. If they kept better care of them, more targets get hit.
We should err on the side of pessimism, not wild optimism when it comes to this stuff. Joke's on us if we start a nuclear war and a billion people die because we thought their maintenance was bad.
How does this break MAD? So he moved nukes that have a range of thousands of miles a couple hundred miles closer? It's just a moderate escalation like new sanctions are. There's nothing majorly transformative about this.
What part of the article implies he doesn't know if they work?
Sweet, more incoherent conspiracy theories backed by Liberal opinion pieces.
Something something Russian oligarchs used up all the money with corruption and the state forgot to maintain the nuclear warheads (you know, the thing that insures America can't just destroy the Russian state), pretty tired of this garbage.
The Russian "state" rapes its own soldiers, regularly and systematically. And then sends them to go do even worse to the Ukrainian civilians.
It's really, really not working right. It's not doing for its own people what those people deserve.
And just because you don't like the US doesn't mean you should like Putin's Russia.
(Me? At this point I'm all for whatever version of socialism or liberalism or social-democracy or whatever that says the Kurdish feminists are right, the Israeli dissidents are right, BLM is right, the Amazonian defenders are right, etc.; — and really, if your government rapes and tortures people, you're not okay.)
Liberalism bombed and still occupies Syria, backs the apartheid state of Israel, persecuted the BLM protesters and is currently destroying the Amazon forest.
Cool story. Putin's army is currently raping young Russian men to prepare them to go rape Ukrainians.
Like, right now that's an ongoing thing. Not a previous administration, not a controversial doctrine.
It's going on right now as you're reading this.
Putinism is terrible for Russia. Bushism was terrible for Russia too, but that doesn't help Oleg who's being raped by his sergeant right now.
What rag did you hear that from? Condescension aside, I am genuinely asking.
And the West created Putin by architecting the illegal dissolution of the Soviet Union and putting Yeltsin (the guy who chose Putin as his successor) in power.
So is the occupation of Syria, the Palestinian genocide by Israel, nothing really changed about systemic racism in America and the Amazon forest is (right now, as you're reading this) being destroyed, do you just forget things that happen as soon as they leave the MSM schedule?
It's not a "previous administration" thing lmao.
Maybe the West shouldn't have put him in power then?
Yeah! The stuff that went on in the 1990s was fucked up!
Putin's army still rapes its own recruits and is tearing through the young men of Russia like a psychopath with a chainsaw. They've managed to murder tens of thousands of young, virile Russian men.
At this rate, there won't be a next generation of Russians unless all of Putin's buddies have a lot of girlfriends.
Not in the 90s, it's happening RIGHT NOW.
Also what's with the obsession with mentioning r-word in every reply? It gives off the vibe that you're glad these things are happening so you have something bad to say about Russia, it's pretty sick. You instantly jumped to that when I mentioned how absurd the "Russian nukes don't work anymore" conspiracy theory is.
I understand that you're not comfortable with the practices of the Russian military. Would you prefer that I not talk about them?
People in my country did fucked-up shit too. I was born in a territory that was founded as a white-separatist colony. I'm okay with discussing the injustices in that history.
Oh, also, for me, it's not "the R word". It's just "rape". I'm okay with saying that white men in my country used to get away with raping black women. That was bad. Are you okay with saying that the Russian army today is bad when it rapes Russian men?
It's not about discomfort, it's more that instantly jumping to talk about SA when someone confronts your "Russian nukes don't work anymore" conspiracy theory just reeks of insecurity, it's like you know that there's nothing to back the position but you still need to screech RUSSIA BAD 24/7, even if it involves making jokes about SA victims.
Hmm, I think any screeching you're hearing is purely in your own imagination.
Looking back over the thread, I initially mentioned the Putin army's habit of raping its own recruits as an example of the Putin regime being a horribly failed state and thus probably an incapable maintainer of nuclear weapons. You responded with what looked like a rhetorical distraction, so I insisted that my example was actually relevant. You'd prefer not to discuss the details, maybe because they involve SA of men, but that's okay, we can gloss over that.
Even then, my point still stands: Do you really think you should stand up for Putinism and the way that it actually treats the Russian people?
In total fairness, they could have abuses of power up to and including SA of many kinds, and it doesn't necessarily make them bad at maintenance.
The shit tier job they did on the rest of their materiel, and that leading to the deaths of a bunch of their soldiers, on the other hand, is pretty strong evidence. Are the nukes maintained by maximal Russian patriots?
The myth of the super capable Russian army also protected Russian interests, and look how that's going.
you really need to go outside and get some fresh air bud
What? No, it doesn't. It makes MAD more likely. The prevailing thought is if one nuclear state pops a nuke everyone else will; the question isn't who will win but who will survive. All Belarus needs to do it to attempt to use one it and it's over. But I suspect that Belarus doesn't control the nukes.