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PC Master Race

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Hello PCMR community!

On July 13th, we asked the community for your opinion if you would like to change the name of this community.

Results of the Survey :

  • Yes - 28.1%
  • No - 71.9% (winner)

Of the 1,201 responses received, we as a community have democratically decided that we should not change the name from PC Master Race. I am grateful to our community for your input, as this was a difficult topic to navigate together.

If you would like to review the history of this, please check out this post here: https://lemmy.world/post/1430610

We'll pin this post for some time and then consider adding a bullet into the sidebar for this Community to help stave off further discussions around this topic as the community has already decided collectively.

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EDIT 30-Aug-2023:

Due to some of the recent targeted attacks against Lemmy.world, I noticed that the image I shared with this post was purged from their servers.

Here's a new screenshot of the results for posterity: https://i.postimg.cc/jqNg5gWx/pcmrsurvey.png

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[–] CaptPretentious 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Going to change to anything that made sense in git, trunk would have made most sense (or something along those lines). Since your project can have many branches... Tree puns!

But changing it after the product was out was a dumb idea regardless of whatever makes sense and what doesn't. It was blatant pointless virtue signaling that broke some automation and makes a bunch of documentation needlessly confusing (someone just starting out and seeing main but the book they bought to learn says master... Now has to find out why).

Edit: my terrible spelling and grammar

[–] elephantium 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

pointless virtue signaling

What do we want? An end to blatant racist murders by police!

What do we get? Rename our git branches!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] MolochAlter 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cause one of the two is fucking stupid.

The word "Master" isn't exclusively tied to slavery and to deem it offensive on those grounds pretty much guarantees you're American and have an understanding of history that makes any actually educated person want to vomit.

A Master branch, like a master copy of a recording, is the reference copy against which others are measured, it's not a master in the sense of ownership but in the sense of benchmarking, like a master of a craft.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This. And even if it were a matter of control, 'master' is a valid terms for that. It is perfectly fine for one piece of technology to utterly control another. It is not fine to do that with humans.

Cutting out the vocabulary just makes it so that when we run into a real situation, we feel like we can't talk about it.

I will keep vocabulary, and keep history, because that's how we know the reasons for the ways we've changed. Blotting things out of our conceptual vocabulary just makes the next generation susceptible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They could at least uhh idk not contract with ice or other law enforcement if they wanted to show support

[–] Katana314 2 points 1 year ago

This is the main point to me. All the vocab adjustment is so inconsequential over the hope of actual ends to real effects on racism.

I won't try to speak for black people, but I would hope/bet they they'd give white people full license to use the N-word if it meant every cop that ever mistreated someone for their race goes behind bars, no more pay disparity by race, or loan/homebuying mistreatment, and no more wealth gap effects in economic progress.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah talking about virtue signalling is a great way to lose me. My company changed hundreds of repos and it wasn't even a thing, and now they're changed forever.