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It uncovered eight WHO panelists involved with assessing safe levels of aspartame consumption who are beverage industry consultants who currently or previously worked with the alleged Coke front group, International Life Sciences Institute (Ilsi).

Their involvement in developing intake guidelines represents “an obvious conflict of interest”, said Gary Ruskin, US Right-To-Know’s executive director. “Because of this conflict of interest, [the daily intake] conclusions about aspartame are not credible, and the public should not rely on them,” he added.

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[–] [email protected] 175 points 2 years ago (5 children)

We've studied this chemical literally more than any other food additive and there's still nothing definitive. Also mice are not a good stand-in for humans. They are really only used for acute toxicity and such.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But the mice genetically predisposed to getting tumors got tumors. What more proof do you need?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's official: Cancer causes cancer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

One step closer cancer causing mice

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fun fact. A potential side effect of many cancer treatments is... cancer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

just gotta hope it kills the old cancer before it gives you a new cancer

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How hecking cancerous cancer is?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Mawks 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I honestly have no clue on the studies but I can't drink anything with aspartame in it at all, even a single sip bloats me and screws up my bowel movements hard. It might just be an allergy but it took me 3 years to find the cause and I'm happy to avoid it that's for sure.

[–] ShakeThatYam 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I believe there are studies showing it messes with gut bacteria. Seems consistent with what you describe.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yeah the occasional non-cancer side effects are well known by now but weirdly enough they just can't seem to find anything conclusive on whether it causes cancer or not...

At this point I'm willing to accuse the sugar lobby for trying to sabotage this chemical out of the market

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Not aspartame. The study, it’s mainly one, showed that sucralose and saccharin did just that. But aspartame had no effect.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I get the worst migraines from the heavy concentrated juices that use aspartame instead of sugar. And I mean two to three days of constant head pounding, I stopped drinking the “sugar free” ones and I have not had a migraine ever since.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Migraine since it made me sensitive to light as well, and like blank spots in my vision as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Oof sorry for my pedantic question.

[–] jampacked 2 points 2 years ago

I get this weird ass headache from it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Even if aspartame does cause cancer you get the choice of cancer or diabetes when you drink cola, so whatever. Just don’t drink it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My gripe is that swapping out sugars for fake ones doesn't seem healthy long term regardless of any direct impact aspartame itself may have. Just have less sugar imo.

Edit: didn't realise how controversial that soft opinion would be lol. Look, drink what you want but I'm going to stick with water unless it's a treat. I know it's not healthy for me to scratch the dopamine itch with sugary tasting treats all the time; fake sugar or not. My perspective is less about trying to say, diet soda is bad but that there must be better alternatives to suggest than just sweetener filled copies?