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Legal repercussions have arrived for the leaders of the effort to overturn the 2020 presidential contest, in what could serve as a warning to those who meddle in future elections.

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[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Took way too long. Happy justice was served. But frustrating they can fuck around for years spreading garbage doing immense damage.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering the gravity of indicting a former president I imagine the investigation needed to be thorough

[–] gAlienLifeform 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I must have missed the part of our constitution that says a regular old citizen who once held a government office is forever entitled to special treatment under the law. Seems like a pretty dumb way to run a society.

[–] andrewta 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taking down a president it even a past president has to be done thoroughly and carefully. Trust me doing it any other way would be catastrophic. Your high school civics teacher can explain it. Why don’t I? I’m in the bathroom at work. I definitely don’t have the time.

But the short answer is, there really is no other faster way to “run a society”.

[–] gAlienLifeform 8 points 1 year ago

Every single use of the government's criminal law powers should be done thoroughly and carefully because all citizens are entitled to due process of law. A former or current president should not get preferential treatment. Beyond the basic morality of it, if we don't push back on this crap hard we're going to get a lot more George Santos-es and other two bit con artists who use our political system as cover for their fraud, and that kind of kakistocracy would be way more catastrophic than making Republicans upset will be.

[–] radix 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only thing worse than never bringing these charges would have been to half-ass and rush them, handing these criminals an easy win in court and preventing them from ever being tried again (double jeopardy). The system is slow on purpose.

[–] gAlienLifeform 8 points 1 year ago

Sitting on your hands and hoping it will all just go away for a year is not avoiding a half-ass rush job, it gave criminals time to attempt to destroy evidence and intimidate witnesses

In the weeks before Jan. 6, Trump supporters boasted publicly that they had submitted fake electors on his behalf, but the Justice Department declined to investigate the matter in February 2021, The Post found. The department did not actively probe the effort for nearly a year, and the FBI did not open an investigation of the electors scheme until April 2022, about 15 months after the attack.

The Justice Department’s painstaking approach to investigating Trump can be traced to Garland’s desire to turn the page from missteps, bruising attacks and allegations of partisanship in the department’s recent investigations of both Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election and Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.

Inside Justice, however, some lawyers have complained that the attorney general’s determination to steer clear of any claims of political motive has chilled efforts to investigate the former president. “You couldn’t use the T word,” said one former Justice official briefed on prosecutors’ discussions.

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[–] MotoAsh 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The FBI themselves have said the investigations were hamstrung.

Don't be so quick to dismiss people pointing out OBVIOUS problems. It makes you look rather stupid. The government failed to respond to literal sedition and secret documents theft and dissemination. For years. More than thirty months.

How quickly did they arrest that goon in OR/WA that leaked a few documents, let alone boxes upon boxes? This has been nothing but a national embarassment, and the Republicans keep helping him!