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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin to c/lemmyworld
 

Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[–] soviettaters 76 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

From the modlog

Banned @[email protected]
reason: Let us help you

That is petty and thin-skinned af lmao

EDIT 1: Account has been unbanned sitewide

EDIT 2: Banned from [email protected] instead, for "trolling" \_(ツ)_/Β―

At least there is a public modlog for accountability on Lemmy

[–] zabil 42 points 1 year ago

The modlog is a great feature. Thank you for sharing

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At least there is a public modlog for accountability on Lemmy

This is one of the features I like in Lemmy so far. Accountability for actions.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Here's my new account. I found a random tiny instance and am chillin. I'd rather you not ban my new account (since I did nothing wrong) but bygones will be bygones.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Between Beehaw and LemmyWorld, I'm on my third account at this point. What starts as an alt quickly becomes the main under the right circumstances. πŸ˜‚

[–] Risk 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gotta choose progressively smaller instances until you self-host.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's pretty nice down here.

[–] Limeey 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can solve your "problem" by running your own instance and federate with whoever you want

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats actually what Iβ€˜m gonna do at some point. Your instance needs to be exposed, right? No chance it would work behind a firewall without a tunnel?

[–] Limeey 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want to federate, then yes. Your instance needs to accept the activity pub messages sent by the instances you federate with. You would also need to send out the apub notices whenever you do activity on your instances

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That makes total sense. I guess it was wishful thinking on my side. So Iβ€˜ll need to wait until Iβ€˜m ready to get a vps then. Thanks for elaborating. :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Join smaller instances, they don't do that there

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I wish I could find the post/comment from a small instance admin that said it quickly became a nightmare trying to moderate without a team, and people were filling their drive storage with white noise files and crap, needing to be purged twice. I believe they even mentioned they were shutting down the instance and it being a cautionary tale of why not to join a smaller instance.

EDIT: waveform.social

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you so much for finding it! This is it. It really sucks that it has to come to that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I read the exact comment you just quoted. Iβ€˜m not sure either who it was but I could check if I answered to it :)

But anyway, Iβ€˜d be down to help if anyone needs help. I already told the admin of my instance that Iβ€˜m game.

[–] void_wanderer 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any recommendation? I don't want to accidentally sign up on some right wing instance etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

my instance is pretty cool, but i think it would be better for you to find an instance that's tailored to your hobby/past time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Understand that Lemmy.world is run by volunteers. It is not a company. They don't have the resources to fight legal battles. The Fediverse is big, feel free to migrate to another instance if you want to participate in that community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But why would lemmy.world be the target of those supposed legal battles? These instances aren't even hosted on lemmy.world.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Because of federation, all federated discussions that have participants from an instance save a local copy of that thread to the source instance the user is from.

So any infringement on one instance will be an infringement on any instances participants came from.

[–] Kevnyon 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Understand that Lemmy.world is run by volunteers. It is not a company. They don’t have the resources to fight legal battles.

And this is one of the reasons why a decentralized option just isn't as viable to replace a centralized option as another centralized option would be. I hate to say it but its just facts.

[–] Vub 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’d argue the opposite. Which company do you know that hosts or links to pirate material openly without repercussions? The flat design is the strength of this technology because it can not be stopped like a company can.

[–] AllukaTheCutie7725 2 points 1 year ago

Decentralized will always be better than centralized. Though I will agree that activitypub isn't great for this. Don't know if we can do better though than ActivityPub though, seems like the best Decentralization solution I've seen but it's still not great, could be much better IMO.

[–] samus12345 1 points 1 year ago

And a centralized option won't be inclined to fight legal battles of this sort, so that doesn't help you.