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[–] okmko 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There is definitely a small set of powerful, rich, and influential people who "benefit", but I don't think it's a pyramid of nefarious overlords so much as it is just a large web of people acting on their own interests.

The same could be said for people with crab mentality. They are acting on their impulses, values, and opinions, born from likely unfortunate circumstances, when they drag their immediate others down. They aren't thinking about holding society back at large.

Plus, quite often things are the way they are because of historical inertia. It's why historians place make such a big deal about continuity. For example, many laws we have can be traced back to some series of awful events that happened to a set of people. But those awful events were probably caused by yet another set of awful circumstances.

If you're looking for some group of people to blame for all of your woes, you might just become a fascist.

[–] Piers 1 points 1 year ago

There is definitely a small set of powerful, rich, and influential people who “benefit”, but I don’t think it’s a pyramid of nefarious overlords so much as it is just a large web of people acting on their own interests.

The same could be said for people with crab mentality. They are acting on their impulses, values, and opinions, born from likely unfortunate circumstances, when they drag their immediate others down. They aren’t thinking about holding society back at large.

Those are all just crabs in the bucket. Some of the more aggressively single-minded ones are nearer to the top of the pile than others.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you’re looking for some group of people to blame for all of your woes, you might just become a fascist.

right, because looking to free yourself from the grip of fascism = fascism.

But hey, thanks for the live demonstration of how a crab in a bucket might actively keep themselves and others in that bucket!

You "enlightened" centrists never cease to amaze me with the bullshit you pull out.

[–] okmko 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're entirely reading what you want to read out of my words, and then promptly applying some vague label as if you're somehow the most enlightened yourself. As if, probabilistically, we both aren't in very similar circumstances being here this very moment in the system that you seem to so despite.