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[–] Telodzrum 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What is the theory of the case on how he loses the GOP primary? He’s polling higher than the rest of the field combined. At this time, unless he dies before the election, I don’t see how he doesn’t end up as the Republican nominee.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like a lot of people would still insist on voting for him even if he was dead. Assuming of course that they believe the "liberal media fake news" that he's dead.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 15 points 1 year ago

Honestly a dead Trump presidency would be a net positive to the world compared to a alive Trump presidency. Do a Weekend at Bernie's I don't care.

Every single day of Trump Presidency 2016-2020 was "What is this moron going to do today?" And just dominating the news. We are still feeling ripple effects of all the BS he rolled back.

[–] SCB 9 points 1 year ago

Trump spoiling the 2024 election for the Republicans would be like a wet dream come true for me.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump runs into a issue with the Fourteenth Amendment where states can block him from the ballot. Only a 2/3 vote in Congress can prevent that.

[–] Telodzrum 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok, aside from bad fanfic what is the way he’s not the nominee and on the ballot in all 51 electoral jurisdictions?

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Legally he can not be on the ballot in any of the 51 electoral jurisdictions per the United States Consitution.

[–] Telodzrum 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol I wish. Where’d you get your law degree, Arby’s?

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's right there in the Consitution of the United States. You are welcome to read it yourself.

https://www.senate.gov/about/origins-foundations/senate-and-constitution/14th-amendment.htm

[–] Telodzrum 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neat, now apply it correctly to the current fact pattern. I can make up fun thought experiments, too.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 1 points 1 year ago

If you don't want to read it that is up to you. Thanks for playing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Telodzrum 3 points 1 year ago

It doesn’t. I get the appeal, but he is not charged with anything that falls under the clause nor is he likely to be charged with such. Historical and legal precedent requires a finding in law of such violation for the clause to be applicable. It’s wishcasting.

[–] newthrowaway20 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

o person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Emphasized the bold part because I don't quite understand why we would want that to even be an option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I imagine the thinking is that if a rebellion has 2/3 support in both houses of Congress, it was probably popular enough to not be disqualifying.