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Awe, poor multi million dollar corporation had to support the Nazi war killing a shit ton of people or they would lose monies...
What do you think the Nazis did to people who refused to support them?
What do you think would happen if everyone didn't support them? You think it's okay to genocide if someone threatens you with a spanking?
No, I don't think it's okay. Yes, I know that if nobody supported them, the Nazis would have never risen to power in the first place.
But "corporation bad" doesn't mean it's always a matter of "I did this horrible thing to save a bit of money." Sometimes there are lives on the line.
Please do not equate concentration camps with a spanking either. You don't need to belittle the actual suffering they caused to make the valid point that cooperating with them is evil.
Doubt they would have sent their biggest donors to camps....
And if they didn't support him, no camps!
Oskar Schindler spent millions and most of his personal wealth to continue operating while saving as many jews as possible.
The leadership at BMW had many options available to them and instead chose to actively support genocide that they knew was happening. They used slave labor from the concentration camps. Leadership at BMW knew full well what was happening.
Yes, it is fully reasonable to expect people exploiting slave labor and actively contributing to a genocide to either do the right thing and do everything in their power to help the people being murdered, like Schindler, while risking their own lived.
Yeah. Are you trying to prove me wrong, or just provide additional information/opinion? I'm having trouble figuring it out, because it sounds like the former, but I'm not seeing much conflict in the information itself.
Thanks for the info, though. I hadn't known that they used slave labor. I was only reacting to the initial meme. Of course that is far less understandable than just having made vehicles for the Nazis in wartime economy.
It's also important to keep in mind that the leadership of the company today consists of probably 0 people who were part of the wartime BMW, and they do own up to their predecessors' misdeeds, so I don't think it's fair to blame today's BMW for it any more than it is to blame today's Germany.
I'd risk, with a good degree of comfort, that the negotiations would have been more along the lines of "serve your country and be paid for it or don't serve your country and go to a concentration camp and die a miserable death", the last part as subtext.
You do not negotiate with any sort of dictatorial regime. The regime holds all the cards, including the cards the other players think they have in hand.
BMW and, by extension, any company, be it small or large, cooperating with any regime is understandable. It's that or risk a terrible, more or less public, demise. That is why dictatorial regimes go to great lenghts to ensure companies and business owners favor by putting large quantities of money and/or resources in their hands.
Self preservation is easy to turn into greed.
There wouldn't have been a dictator if THEY didn't make him one. They should have resisted. Their selfishness in preserving their greedy company at the cost of millions of lives does not make them innocent.