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I noticed a post from a Beehaw community on my feed today, but I thought we were defederated. Did we refederate?

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[–] CMahaff 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So I asked about this once before, and my understanding is that since beehaw defederated:

  • Beehaw won't accept anything new from lemmy.world
  • Beehaw won't send anything new to lemmy.world

So even though lemmy.world didn't block beehaw, it is still effectively cut off in all meaningful ways.

You could still see:

  • Beehaw and lemmy.world users interacting together in communities on instances that neither has blocked (because in this case the third instance is acting like a middleman between them)
  • Lemmy.world users can still post to the "phantom" beehaw communities and it will be visible to all lemmy.world subscribers, but no one else will see it since it can't reach Beehaw, and thus can't be distributed to all the other instances.
[–] Carnelian 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happens to the phantom posts if they were to refederate? Does everything just suddenly mesh back together?

Like if I commented on an old Beehaw post. Would beehaw users eventually get that comment pushed to that post, in the case of federation? Or is it just lost in the cracks because it happened during a time when they weren’t accepting lemmy.world content?

[–] CMahaff 3 points 1 year ago

My understanding is that right now Lemmy is very poor at "catching up" on missed content in general. You can see it anytime there is prolonged downtime that the same post across multiple instances gets out of sync. So most likely in the event of re-federation, as Lemmy is written today, the old content would not be received - just new content. Hopefully things are improved in the future