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[–] Fredselfish 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which shows how fucking stupid Obama is.

[–] Burn_The_Right 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well, it shows how stupid it is to negotiate with conservatives.

A conservative is never, ever to be trusted. Every word uttered by a conservative is either deception or manipulation. Never trust a conservative. Never.

[–] Fredselfish 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which Obama should have known better. But the fact that he is now worth 60 million dollars shows we're his interest really lay.

[–] Burn_The_Right 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True. Neo-liberalism is just conservatism with a friendly face.

[–] Fredselfish 10 points 1 year ago

Exactly todays Democrats are just a less extreme conservative. We have no left leaning politicians except for Bernie Sanders in our government on a national level.

[–] catshit_dogfart 3 points 1 year ago

I think that was Obama's greatest failure - insistence on bipartisanship even when they didn't have to. Pretty sure he actually thought they were negotiating in good faith for at least his entire first term, and they smacked him in the face over and over again.

Like they proved they can't be trusted every single time, and he kept making sure they had a seat at the table.

[–] gAlienLifeform 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I think that's a better way to put this. I'd also add that I don't think progressives are going to be able to take on Republican fascism and win without having the moderates on our side, so calling them fucking stupid might not be helpful (though I fully understand the impulse because they've been making this same mistake since at least the Reagan years).