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When I eat chicken, I call it chicken. Chicken wing; chicken drumsticks etc.

When I eat lamb, I call it lamb. Lamb shank; lamb cutlets.

So why do I not eat pig or cow? I eat pork or beef. Is there a reason for that?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • You generally never eat cow, because cows produce milk. When you eat beef, it is usually a steer.
  • Sometimes English uses culinary names - pork for pig, calamari for squid, etc. The explanation for each is likely to be distinct, but e.g. for pork, that's from Latin for pig (porcus) and for some arbitrary reason it stuck around. The answer is probably always going to be some variant on "it's arbitrary", though.
[–] Zeth0s 15 points 1 year ago

Cows breed for meat do not produce milk other than that needed for calves.

We do eat cows

[–] RedAggroBest 11 points 1 year ago

There's nothing arbitrary about it. The Norman invasion meant the English ruling class, and therefor the ones introducing culinary terms, spoke French. Peasants spoke English, which was far more Germanic at the time. So the peasants breeding animals and whos names for the live animal stuck, used the words pig and cow, while those creating what few recipes we do have were using French boeuf and porc

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

calamari is just squid in Greek, maybe English people learned about cooking squid from Greece since there's so many of them and the word for it just stuck

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Beef’s turn…

c. 1300, "an ox, bull, or cow," also the flesh of one when killed, used as food, from Old French buef "ox; beef; ox hide" (11c., Modern French boeuf), from Latin bovem (nominative bos, genitive bovis) "ox, cow," from PIE root *gwou- "ox, bull, cow." The original plural in the animal sense was beeves

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you get oddities like ox used for the offcuts/ofal (tail, cheeks, tongue, heart)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, I've heard of oxtail as a delicious southern dish, but never had the opportunity to try it.

Is it really just a generic cow tail?

English is stupid, and I say that as a native speaker.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] elephantium 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, I don't know, with 8 arms a squid cook could be VERY effective!

Just don't ask one to mix the salad...