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Ukraine is well within their rights to attack strategic targets inside of Russia. They are at war. It might actually wake some of the Russian citizens up. Welcome to Putin's war.
Hitting command nodes and material production/storage in Russia is the way forward. As Putin will not end the war he started, the war machine must be destroyed.
My only concern is that it might cause increased support for the war in the civilian population. But as you said, it's fair game for the Ukrainians.
Yep, let them enjoy their own medicine. If they want war, let them taste war.
They already encouraged it by letting Putin and his pawns motivate propaganda, pro-war posters and pro-war ads everywhere and their own useful men dying. The prorogative about "but but I would get jailed", yes, and the other alternative is to let your husband die at war and kill innocent ukrainians ya? Sure, enjoy the flavor of your own medicine. And this was just a tiny bit.
Breaking the civilian population with brute force is rarely working. See the battle of Britain, the bombs in London or the carpet bombing over Germany. It only leads to people digging in and becoming determined. Yet, little assaults like the drone one to keep the war uncomfortably close and spread a lingering feeling of insecurity might work.
Actually it did effect the German population and they learned the war was lost and over. Also the Dutch gave up after some carpet bombing during wwii. I'd also present Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Breaking the civilian population is a goal and is often attained in total war imho...
As a response to an invasion, sure.
As a result of doing dumb shit your country started? Not so much.
This! Britain, Germany etc. didn't have a reasonable exit strategy for avoiding the bombing. There is a potential exit for russia.
Russian population has to understand at some level, that these events are a result of actions russia has taken in a foreign country. They didn't happen before russian leadership dragged the country into this mess. The west has also given clear signals that the sanctions and military support are a direct result of russian actions. Their magnitude is driven by russian actions and escalation.
This is a form of backlash instead of oppression. Backlash is for signaling that what you're doing is a bad idea. The other is completely different.
Yeah, I can only remember what I read about how the attitudes of the men on the frontlines of the first world war changed after the leaders obligated a dehumanized view of each other following the first christmas truce. This very well could have the opposite effect.
My ADHD riddled mind literally just before I got here sent me down the Wikipedia rabbit hole of the history of bombers. There was this millennium fucking thing where over 1000 bombers bombed the shit out of the city of Cologne in like 1943. On Wikipedia it was stated that the expected demoralization of the public didn't happen but instead it increased solidarity between the public and the military.
One of the only times war can be morally justified is in defense of your homeland. Another would be stopping genocidal actions by the other side.
Zelenskyy also mentions “symbolic centers”