Thank you for all the feedback you provided, using your feedback, we've come to these new rules:
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- Be civil. Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only.
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- All posts should contain a source (url) that is as unbiased and reliable as possible. Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blacklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods.
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- No bots, spam or self-promotion. Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
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- Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title is wrong / incorrect, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
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- Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days. No opinion pieces, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed.
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- No duplicate posts. If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
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- No link shorteners, the auto mod will contact you if they are detected.
Once again, we are asking for some feedback. This can be anything from spelling / grammar checks to fundamental changes. Let this be a place to make these rules as perfect as possible.
Please keep in mind that the blacklist is currently still in development. We are looking for some sites we should block, so if you know some, let us know.
Thank you for your help everyone!
Regarding Rule 6, this seems to say that the same story with a different source is okay. I don't think this should be the case. The same story regardless of source should not be reposted unless it adds new information.
It’s not meant like that. But the automod won’t leave a message if you use a different source.
The final rules will be collapsed, so you would only see:
rule 6: No duplicate posts
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
So what does "a source" mean in this rule? So long as the article text isn't a 100% copy of a story that's already been posted (like with AP articles that get reprinted in dozens of papers) we'll be ok to post it, right?
Getting multiple perspectives on a story is a big part of why I come to forums like these, and I worry that it's just going to get ugly if we have a situation where you're removing the NPR article about something because someone posted the Wall Street Journal coverage of it first (or vice versa).
The bot will only check that you don’t post exactly the same URL, so don’t worry (:
Very good, thank you for clarifying that!
So it's okay for people to post the same story from different sources or not? It's still not clear to me.
We discourage spamming the same story over and over again, but sometimes different sources bring different perspectives on a story. So it will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
The bot can ofcourse not detect those duplicates, so moderating it will be more difficult.
"moderating it will be more difficult". So does that mean it is allowed or not? If you "discourage spamming the same story over and over again", do you mean from the same person, or from everyone? So if ten different people posted the same story from different sources, is that allowed or not? The rules are not clear, and your further explanation still isn't clear to me.
If it ever comes to a point where the same story get’s spammed to an annoying degree, we will communicate that we won’t accept any more of those posts.
But we probably won’t moderate before that.
We can always alter the rules later if that turns out to be a problem.
I disagree, different perspectives from different reporters almost always add at least some new information and seeing how many outlets are reacting to a story gives me a sense of how "big" the story is. I'd make an exception if the article text is 100% identical because it's an AP reprint or something, but otherwise I think the mods should leave this alone.
e; apologies for double post, having some site/app instability at the moment