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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've been thinking about this whole eco-depression and have been wondering whether it could end up saving us.

Like, it's awful that folks don't want to be parents, especially those who are environmentally conscious, but to be blunt about it, a higher ratio of plants vs. humans, isn't the worst thing to happen to the climate.

Much more importantly, though, I'm hoping, it makes all those capitalists realize that their limitless growth is fucking pointless. If it culminates in an apocalypse, all their excess money and property is not worth anything.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm hoping for the best but we might get the worst of idiocracy in a climate catastrophe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, thunk of who would not be having kids and think of who it is making room for...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I haven't looked at the data, but I'm guessing the most eco-anxious demographics are also probably the ones that already have the lowest birth rate.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What i dont understand is all my single/childless friends are biking to work and doing all the "environmentally friendly" things we're supposed to do (whether it's effective or just stoking our own egos is up for debate)

And then you have my friends who are parents of 2-4 kids and they're doubling down on the mass consumption, SUV at costco lifestyle...

Like... Your kids are headed for the hunger games... Why are ya'll trying to accelerate the timeline?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I have been wondering about that, too. I've found these potential reasons:

  1. Self-selection bias. If you're optimistic enough to have kids, you're probably more optimistic about the climate in general.

  2. Genuinely needing things. Not an SUV, but e.g. grocery shopping without a car, when you've got a family, is quite a challenge.

  3. Other things to worry about. Parents are often just trying to survive the every-day-chaos. Worrying how to save the world has a lower priority to them.

  4. Someone to be selfish for. As an individual, I'm free to be altruistic, because it only affects me. But with a partner and/or kids, you can always buy nice things for them instead.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

As long as there are going to be religious conservative people in this world, regardless of religion, there will always be children born. Religion forces people to have them. And the more they make kids, the more these companies will influence the government to increase immigration from these regions.