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[–] AA5B 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (22 children)

It’s been difficult to find manual transmisssions for a couple of decades here in the US. That ship has sailed.

While most of my life I vowed my kids would learn manual, I gave up on that idea because

  • manual transmission cars are rare and disappearing
  • automatics now are more fuel efficient
  • CVT are reliable and even more efficient
  • EVs don’t shift

My kids started driving in a world of automatics and will soon be in a world with no transmissions

[–] lemming741 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

cvts are reliable

Now THAT'S a statement made by the utterly deranged

[–] meathorse 2 points 1 day ago

Belt CVTs - I'm right there with you, but take a look into the more modern geared CVTs such as Toyota e-CVT in their hybrids - I think Honda have a similar tech. It's a planetary gear system that provides infinite gears without the rubber band feel that plagued belt CVTs and hella-reliable.

https://youtu.be/vHc-_E8xWnM?si=tzCJWXHmC9T5GCpx

I'm a petrolhead at heart and would love more options for manuals but in lieu of that, a geared CVT is by far the next best transmission and 100x better than a traditional auto.

Even better, jump in one and take it for a drive - because there are gears, it feels more connected to the motor - almost manual-like response and no sluggish delay like a traditional auto.

You literally pick your revs by pushing the throttle more or less, they're magic for hills or when the car is packed since you're never waiting for revs to climb up into the power nor holding a speed because any faster and you have to change again which takes you out of the power again. If you want more power, you simply modulate that with the throttle and the revs rise instantly to accommodate.

[–] CptEnder 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

CVTs are good for tractors that need a wide range of torque ratios but still stay automated.

[–] lemming741 1 points 2 days ago

They're good for go karts and for auto manufacturers that want their product to be worthless about time you pay it off.

[–] kameecoding 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think he is confusing CVT with the toyota eCVT which is quite different and is actually reliable

[–] lemming741 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Prius system is a modern marvel and deserves a better name than eCVT.

Belt type CVTs are trash. I don't care that your Subaru has 57,000 trouble free miles, it's going to die.

[–] AtHeartEngineer 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've had a Subaru CVT for 10+ years with over 200k miles no issues. Anecdotal yes, but I've grown fond of the CVT feel, it's smooth, I like it.

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