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Fought the Nazis, You Say (lemmy.world)

submitted 16 hours ago by homesweethomeMrL to c/politicalmemes

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

And it's not what I'm talking about.

[–] njm1314 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

If your logic can't be applied to more than one scenario then your logic is flawed.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not claiming that it's not applicable. I don't want to talk about a different topic.

[–] njm1314 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No you don't want to talk about it because it completely undermines your point. When you make a logical argument the logic of said argument is certainly not a different topic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

There were two points intsoduced:

That "Slava Ukraini" is a "teeny bit" of nationalism
That a "teeny bit" of nationalism is ok.

So, to answer both points:

I don't think that it's a "teeny bit" of nationalism to reproduce an ultranationalist parole. If Germany gets a new Chancellor and we all exclaim "Heil Merz!" to wish him the best to lead the nation, I don't think that would be accepted. Not even if Germany was invaded.
I disagree that a "teeny bit" of nationalism is ok. I think that this point was a derailment of the topic. I was talking about reusing paroles with a fascist background. Not nationalism. You canwt argue about Ukrainian nationalism on .world, because everyone will accuse you of being Putin's bottom bitch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree and it’s hardly a “tiny bit”

I don't mean to drag this out, but when you said you disagree, what was it that I said that you disagreed with?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree with nationalism and I think it's beside the point, which is why I didn't want to get into it.

Bu, if you insinst: Nationalism is the belief that the interests of the national state align with your personal interests. I think that belief is wrong (at least in a dapitalist nation). One example in how it is wrong is that it dilutes/negates class antagonisms. E.g.: if you "buy canadian", you're actually helping the Canadian bourgeoisie.

Nationalism is also the reason why people believe in killing and/or dying for their nation in a war. I don't agree with nationalism. Not even a "tiny bit".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

Well sure, buying Canadian helps the Canadian bourgeoisie. But the point is that it sends a message to Trump. We have to buy food from somewhere -- so surely it's better to buy Canadian?