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[–] grepe 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

most people don’t actually want to live in commie row houses with a bar downstairs.

of course! these types of building were an imperfect answer to a problem of how to make enough living space for many people fast enough and cheaply enough. the apartment blocks went a long way from prefabricated panel blocks in a concrete jungle to the point i absolutely loved living in my modern block apartment in the city center in a quite spot between two parks, 10min walk from a train station and a shopping center, with a terrace, garden, playground and childcare across the street and within 15min from any shop, restaurant, pub, doctor or anything else i ever needed.

You can’t have shops in a residential street because most people don’t actually want that.

what? i mean, i can believe you can be conditioned to not wanting it. just like many americans think unions are bad or any other crazy shit like that... but generally no. anyone who ever lived in a place where they can run down the street to buy milk when they run out or just walk sane distance to a pub will disagree with you.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It's kind of an odd take to suggest that people who have a different perspective to yours have been "conditioned" into thinking that way.

In Australia the "corner store" type set up where you could walk a few minutes down the road to buy milk and a paper was more or less defunct by the early 00's. It's just not a viable business model.

I spent my 20s working in bars and restaurants and I did drink far too much at that time. I always lived a short walk away from wherever I was working. IDK why exactly but I'm just not interested any more. I haven't been trying to abstain but I'm pretty sure I haven't had a beer or any other sort of alcohol since December 2022. I can assure you that I couldn't care less about being a "sane distance" from a pub.

[–] FelixCress 1 points 9 minutes ago

In Australia the "corner store" type set up where you could walk a few minutes down the road to buy milk and a paper was more or less defunct by the early 00's. It's just not a viable business model.

You do realise that this "not viable business model" works perfectly well in number of countries?

[–] grepe 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

i do believe you honestly mean the things you wrote. and maybe many other people believe that too... but if a person born in soviet russia would say that the decadent west is the root of all evil would you consider it as simply their perspective and someone who suggest otherwise as "having an odd take" for not accepting it? there are perspectives and there is reality.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

i do believe you honestly mean the things you wrote. and maybe many other people believe that too... but it's just plain arrogant and maybe even delusional to assume everyone other than you has been conditioned to think contrary to reality.

[–] MellowYellow13 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

But you are the one claiming other peoples perspectives are "odd takes" and you are the righteous one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

When I said that's an "odd take" I was trying to find an alternative to say that it's the height of arrogance to suggest that someone else's lifestyle preference is the result of conditioning, and that they would be happier in a row house.

Imagine talking about sexual preferences in this way. Honestly it's just an absurdity.