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This isn't realistic.
I've dealt with depression before.
People will say they want to support you and want to know what's going on. If you describe a problem, the person listening almost always offers a solution. If you start to explain why their solution won't work, they almost instantly get super annoyed and may suddenly become unavailable the next time you call.
People want to think of themselves as the type of person who would be supportive of a depressed person, but most "supportive" people who feel this way still adhere to normal social mores and expectations and get pissed or annoyed when a depressed person doesn't follow them. It's also super hard for a depressed person to simultaneously discus their depression and adhere to unwritten social niceties.
If I as a depressed person keep my feelings to myself, if I get better I still may have friends and if I die at least some people may show up to my funeral. If I lean on non-depressed people for support, they will expect normal social responses that adhere to unwritten codes and will get annoyed, the result being for me at best fewer friends and at worst a cremation with no one who cares about the ashes.
Honestly fuck that tweet or whatever. Shit like that is bout making society feel better with corporatesque platitudes like "Mental Health Awareness is Important! See something say something!" or whatever empty cheerleading slogan exists to encourage the workers while the most poor of all rot on the street (unless they fall asleep, causing them to be arrested, whenceupon they are fed in jail). Most people do not give a fuck, that's why a homeless subpopulation exists, fuck this planet and fuck empty tweets like this.
Some people do have the capacity to express this sentiment, if only for a few hours a week or month. And they'll dedicate that time to crisis centers like the one in the message, where it can save a life or at least pause an irreversible decision in the moment.
People do not give a fuck. But sometimes they do.
Thank you for expressing what I've never been able to put into words
Thank you for acknowledging that this is a real thing. I wished when I first had depression I had been warned to never open up to friends about it. I got that advice a few years in when talking with a woman at a support group who went on to become a successful actress: never tell anyone you know. Although to this day I still wonder whether she was depressed or method acting.
Friends would genuinely care at first, say "Just try going out more" or something that I wasn't capable of, and then when I would explain why I couldn't, I could see the annoyance on their face.
Then, when the topic changed and they were talking, I could sense the annoyance when I wasn't giving normal social feedback to some trivial story. Like, I would get a "my boss is such a bitch" story and instead of laughing or smiling during appropriate moments, which are things people often do voluntarily to feign social enhancement, I just lacked the ability to respond in a normal emotional way.
Such an interaction would almost always result in later calls going unreturned.
That's why tweets like this are so bad. If you have depression, the best advice is really keep that shit to yourself and jog and get better over time if you can and if it's severe lean on professionals or join a support group. Your absolute closest friend(s) may be willing to tolerate it, like your bestie may stick around, but good friends won't and acquaintances absolutely won't.
And the people who ghost after discussing depression with you will never think of it in terms of what is is. The ghosting person doesn't go "Man that shit bummed me out, he's not depressed just lazy. His responses to my stories made me feel bummed out." Instead, they just will suddenly not have time when they did before, thinking "Yeah, I want to be there but I'm just so busy. I'll call in a few weeks" and then they will conveniently forget.
That's why when you see someone like Selena Gomez proudly declaring her mental health issues and being open and transparent and the importance of living your truth etc, it's really about making her feel good because she's a sexy celebrity with a line of people angling to know her because of fame and if one person leaves the line there are others right behind that person. That is almost never true for anyone else dealing with mental health and openness and transparency are often terribly hurtful to those with these issues, however, it makes people feel good and look good to say "Be transparent and open" because they are selfish or naive and the truth "Lie about your mental health and stfu" doesn't look good. This is even worse in corporate and institutional settings where the entire point is to look good. Never has there been a corporate mental health slogan "It's okay to lie about your depression. We get it if you need to be out sick for 'mono' " because dishonesty is something people don't like. It has never been about the depressed person, it's always about people already happy. This is not meant to disparage Selena Gomez and she may not actually say everyone should be open and just be trying to show that real people have these issues, but she is just an example of someone very transparent when that transparency may be extremely unwise for others. The push for transparency in mental health is often really destructive in some ways to people who naively believe its benefit and these values and tweets tends to align more with government institutional and societal goals more than anything.
It's way better for a depressed person to pretend to be super busy, then reappear when able to be the fun friend rather than permanently damaging the social connections they have. For this tweet, it's like inviting depressed people into shark infested waters for a nice swim. Most people with these issues figure this out along the way, and then you get accidental gas lighting tweets like that in response.
So much of mental health is what makes non-depressed people feel better about themselves and what society would like to be effective, but makes things worse for people who suffer.
I'm so incredibly lucky to have a couple friends who I can dump my terrible thoughts on and have them just go "that fucking sucks and I wish I could help" and not try to give advice or try to offer comfort by talking about how they got through bad times
I learned the hard way which people I can talk to and be honest with and which I can't