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[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not having an address is a huge hurdle to get a job. There should be laws against it or else it just creates a downward cycle.

[–] andros_rex 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine what happens to foster kids who age out. Imagine applying for jobs at 17, knowing that you’ll need to support yourself, and then trying to figure out whether putting down the group home as your “permanent address” is a smart idea or not. (About a third of girls who age out end up pregnant quickly, another third will end up in sex work.)

Something like half of homeless people were in the foster care system. The foster care system in the United States is disgusting - group home positions are poorly paid and unpleasant, which incentivizes the wrong kind of people to want to work in them. “Troubled teens” are vulnerable to all kinds of extra abuse - look up what was happening with cops and kids at the Tulsa juvie last year.

These are people who have never been loved. People who were put through the meat grinder of the human soul that is DHS care, were thrown out on the street and told to figure it out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

When I wrote my statement, I wasn't even thinking about foster care kids.

Horrifying.

Thank you for the information.

[–] andros_rex 2 points 19 hours ago

There’s a reason why the US refused to ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Seeing the way DHS and foster works has been a “black pill” for me. There’s a wider attitude that children are the property of their parents in their states (see the endless conversations about “parent rights” - eg, denying children education and medical care). Children whose parents have rejected them are basically dumped into a lost and found, have no value, have no voice.

I’ve talked to social workers where they had to place kids in homeless shelters because there were no available beds. Kids sleep in DHS offices. DHS can’t be assed to make sure kids’ shit gets from place to place - I’ve bought multiple children clothes because they went inpatient with basically nothing.

[–] x00z 7 points 1 day ago

In my country it is illegal too. A place of residency is required to get bank accounts and jobs. But we also have some sort of vanity addresses which the social net provides to those without a home. These address are used to receive correspondence and allows homeless people to be official citizens of a town.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely agree with you, but, unpopular opinion probably, I also don't want a lazy ass who can't or doesn't want to get a job to be homeless. Like, I don't care how much of an asshole you are and how many drugs you take and that you don't care to hold a job, I still want you to have shelter, food, and basic necessities. Let alone kids of these people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Remember how in the 90s "The Dude" Big Lebowski, the laziest man in Los Angeles County, was still able to afford his rent. That wasn't even considered unrealistic back then either, like a few mid-20 year olds could afford a loft in Manhatten off a coffeeshop salary (FRIENDS) the only complaint of realism was their loft was too big.