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You have my sympathy.
But I'm sure many lemmings reading this recognize the second "lazy doctor" scenario.
You realize you're doing the "lazy doctor" routine right now, right?
You already decided on an answer and when confronted with a discrepancy, you decided that your understanding is correct and this specific situation is the outlier.
That's the exact same thought process you're complaining about.
Not really.
I'm diagnosing a problem but my solution is to investigate more, not to sweep unknowns under the antidepressant carpet.
Lmfao, such detective work.
You aren't a doctor. Stop acting like one, and stop assuming you know all doctor's motives. SSRIs are an important tool and make many peoples lives tolerable. No one's making you or anyone take anything.
I'm not seeing patients or providing medical advice. Typing on lemmy is nothing like acting like a doctor.
Agreed.
Also prozac and other drugs are prescribed for "stress related" symptoms when doctors can't find the root cause and when patients demand a pharmaceutical solution.
You're spouting unsubstantiated bullshit because you think you're special and that your opinion is worth shit, somehow more than that of medical professionals and scientists.
I'm sick of these fucking conspiracy theorest trolls.
Kindly shut the fuck up and go away.
Conspiracy? I've experience it. And it's not just me
https://time.com/7208914/symptoms-doctors-dismiss-anxiety/
https://www.northwell.edu/katz-institute-for-womens-health/articles/gaslighting-in-womens-health
again, fibro is frequently treated with antidepressants. this is not (just) laziness. read your insurance policy on meds and i bet you'll find they won't let you proceed with diagnosis for anything else until you've been on an SSRI for 6 months. Idiopathic pain, somatoform disorder, etc. allllllll have to be ruled out. It's not (just) because you're female, but is IS CERTAINLY because you're American.
Don't you consider such unscientific bureaucratic rulings as being part of the problem?
Take a step back and think for a bit.
Where did you get your medical degree from again?
https://www.northwell.edu/katz-institute-for-womens-health/articles/gaslighting-in-womens-health
The down votes are from people who were diagnosed with "stress" and are now addicted to anti depressants.
The downvotes are from people who think your statements are ignorant lol
The down votes are from the victims of a medical industry that doesn't allow doctors to say "I don't know".
I'm not American so I don't know what GPs are like in the US, but I don't know of any anti depressants that are addictive. The addictive ones are the pain killers.
https://lagunatreatment.com/drug-abuse/prozac/
Hmm. I've been on Prozac before and that's definitely not addictive.
You have no place diagnosing people with no proven experience in the field of psychiatry, or pharmacology.
So stop parroting RFK talking points.
OK, I have no idea about the medical history of whoever is down voting. But it's clear from the numbers that people are scared of their pills being taken away.
The only time I've had a similar reaction was when I suggested coffee should be banned. (It's bad for the environment, more physically addictive than heroin and makes everyone's breath smell terribly)
Again, you have proven that you have no experience in psychology, or pharmacology, so stop with the RFK rhetoric.
You’re not qualified to disagree with science and people with PhDs. Stop embarrassing yourself.
There are too many lazy, bribed doctors prescribing too many antidepressants.
11% of Americans over the age of 12 take an antidepressant.
You have provided no counter argument, but I would welcome one.
Because there is no counter-point to your RFK bullshit. It’s like arguing with bible salesmen.
No, he hasn’t. And I’m don’t arguing with you about it. What he is doing is reckless and dangerous. And your support of him is disgusting.
I'm not actually arguing for RFKs solution but we all need to admit he has identified a problem.
I have experienced lazy doctors who dismiss everything as stress.
Ask your doctor friends what the phrase "stress related" really means.
You think people are getting depression diagnosis and SSRIs on that?
Just admit you're completely uninformed and stay out of discussions in which you are so in future, dude
No. I made that distinction at the top of this thread.
You don't need clinical depression for a lazy doctor to prescribe Xanax.
Like I said, you don't know what you're talking about: Xanax isn't an SSRI, it's a Benzodiazepine, literally a depressant
You prescribe Xanax for anxiety because it relaxes you, you prescribe SSRIs for depression to help with serotonin processing, they are not even the same class of drug
Ok, Prozac then. The specific drug is not the point of this conversation.
Your inability to differentiate between specific drugs, all of which are commonly known, sure makes it seem like you have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about.
I chose a common drug that is prescribed when doctors run out of options but must provide a solution.
No, you chose the first mental health drug that came to mind, not knowing that SSRIs and benzos are two very different classes of drug. Because, again, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
I'm talking about lazy doctors whi diagnose "stress" and prescribe anti-depressant drugs as a generic solution.
I'm sorry if that was your personal experience, but it is far from the modal experience and shouldn't be used as a basis for how we evaluate medical treatment or medications themselves. Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Unfortunately not true
https://time.com/7208914/symptoms-doctors-dismiss-anxiety/
https://www.northwell.edu/katz-institute-for-womens-health/articles/gaslighting-in-womens-health
If I send you an article about a horrific car crash, would you conclude that the majority of drivers are killed in car accidents?
Who said majority?
But we need to recognize that there exist ~~lazy doctors~~ cars that crash.
if you had a doctor Rx Xanax for your fibromyalgia they were giving you more credit than you realize, since they never actually give that out unless they have no choice... they also almost never give out Prozac... what meds did they give you? Was it Lyrica, one of the drugs meant to treat Fibro? Was it Wellbutrin, an SN(D)RI which also treats Fibro? Celexa? Effexor? Because THOSE ARE ALL USED TO TREAT FIBRO, WHICH YOU CLAIM TO HAVE???
Would you also like by blood work and full family history?
It's not just fibromyalgia symptoms. So many times the "stress" excuse is rolled out by lazy doctors, but it's never mentioned by ones that actually investigate the causes.
You realize that in order to get an SSRI you have to go see a psychiatrist right? Like the regular docs won't / can't prescribe them? You don't just go see some GP and be like 'i r the depress'.
most antidepressants are prescribed by primary care doctors-not psychiatrists
Weird how people want to downvote facts backed by sources.