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I'm hearing that the USFS has laid off huge numbers of firefighters, including veterans, and won't be allowed to hire their usual seasonal firefighting force this year.

Edit: ProPublica now has a detailed article

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The whole "Smokie" program was a massive failure. The fire fighters loss is horrible but don't do them dirty by comparing them to the forest fire equivalent to the D.A.R.E program.

Its been said in another comment but in case you don't see it: https://www.npr.org/2012/08/23/159373691/how-the-smokey-bear-effect-led-to-raging-wildfires

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I responded to it:

We want to run prescribed burns when it’s wet, and suppress the high-intensity fires that destroy everything. Both actions require trained fire crews.

[–] TheKingBee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's only called the smokey bear effect, this is a sprawl and nimby problem.

Many fire experts embrace controlled, or "prescribed," fires — purposely set fires that do the cleanup job that small natural fires once did. It takes the tinder out of the tinder box.

But people have built homes and towns close to forests; they don't like the smoke, and prescribed burns sometimes get out of control.

Allowing controlled burns is a whole separate issues than smokey bear telling people to put out their camp fires and not throw cigarettes into dry leaves...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Oh the smokie program had a lot more going on then that. It was more the change in how forests where managed that did the damage. Smokie is just the spokesbear.