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First that's a strawman, I never made that argument, but if I did you would have to provide evidence that downsizing the faa would cause regular plane crashes.
It's literally already happening.
And it's hard to know what argument you're making when your responses are one and two words.
Regular crashes are not happening. Also they rejected over 1000 applicants for traffic controllers because of there race while having a staffing shortage. Maybe don't do that
Should be pretty easy when I don't use words like faa and plane crashes
Where do you people even come up with this nonsense?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/immediate-assessment-of-aviation-safety
This was your entire argument:
You didn't even bother defining what you think is waste. Is every government employee a waste?
I am aware.
The government's job is to protect individuals from aggression by others. If it doesn't involve that, then probably
That is not the only job of government.
That's your opinion
No, it's your opinion that the only job of government is to prevent attack and you are objectively wrong in that.
https://www.ushistory.org/gov/1a.asp?srsltid=AfmBOoohYDSRnj55K4MOK2cBwa3e_tccug5cHcftIT3xTSQapuGbpl2f
"A country, then, needs to not only protect its citizens from one another, but it needs to organize to prevent outside attack."
Notice the order there... The first job of government is to protect its citizens from one another.
So, no, you can't burn 110 mph through a school zone. Why? Government. Meat packers can't sweep up floor waste and sell it as grade A meat. Why? Government.
These are the things government does when it's NOT protecting us from exterior threats, because the interior threats are just as pernicious if allowed to be uncontrolled.
And no, private industry is not a substitute. Why? Because there's no profit in it. And trust me, you don't want to live in a country where basic food safety is a for profit industry.
Government exists to do the things necessary for a society without seeking to profit from it. This is why all the idiots going "Government should be run like a business!" are, in fact, idiots.
Imagine a for profit police department, or fire department, or DMV, or department of education.
"911, please enter your credit card now."
One another means violent force and fraud.
... Because that's fraud. I support the government protecting individuals from fraud.
Police are here to protect you from others, that's what I said the government is here for.
Actually it's the left that yells acab abolish the police, abolish ice
Organize to prevent outside attack means the military should protect us from foreign enemies. So no I'm not objectively wrong, actually by your own quote you provided with a source, I'm objectively right
No, you said it was ONLY for that and you're 100% wrong on it. Government builds streets, installs sidewalks, and street lamps, all the little things we take for granted that the private sector can't because they can't monetize it.
Unless you want to pay a toll for sidewalk access? Or for lingering under a streetlight?
These are the things government does.
None of that falls under your quote
It's exactly what the purpose of government is.
You can keep repeating that but it won't make fall into your definition you provided
So meat inspectors at the FDA and doctors at the CDC are a waste because they don't protect others from aggression. Okay then.
Is the government the only one capable of inspecting meat?
Yes. That’s how it works in virtually every country on the planet. Who else do you think should be doing it? Should the meat companies inspect themselves? I think you might want to read some Sinclair Lewis if that’s what you think.
Independent third parties can do it and probably better
What independent third parties? Who pays for them?
Ones that would check the meat...
Whoever wants to pay for there service
You're way off topic here. There's a shit ton of waste in gov, I think starting with things like dei music festivals in Ireland if a good place to start
Those organizations do not exist. They cannot be magicked into existence.
Who would that be? Because currently it's paid for by taxes which is why we don't have the situation Upton Sinclair described in The Jungle.
And no, I'm not off-topic at all. Because that is not where he is starting. At all. There was no list drawn up of unimportant federal employees when this started.
I didn't know their names
Because you have to go through the expenses. You don't know what's waste if you don't look at the receipts, like lgbt comic books
So you are convinced that a government service that works just fine as it is would work better with an organization that doesn't exist and is paid for by no one you know that would pay for it?
The customer would pay for it. Why do I need to know individual names of them? If I had them would that change anything?
Customers already pay for it. With taxes. You just want customers to pay someone else. Probably more.
Meanwhile, here's some very wasteful jobs Trump cut! https://www.rawstory.com/trump-nuclear-weapons-2671157952/
Ok my way they wouldn't pay for it by the threat of violence. I like my way better
The reason it's done through "threat of violence" (this is a good indicator that you shouldn't be taken seriously) is that libertarian pipedreams are bullshit that never work.
Your way is idiotic and leads to people being poisoned by bad actors and is the reason we do it through taxes in the first place.
Right now, they're at the "loose nuclear weapons are a good thing" point in their attempt to defend Trump, so I think they're going even beyond most libertarian pipe dreams.
Remember how this started with you saying what Trump is doing right now with firing federal employees is a good thing?
Still think what he's doing is good?
Yes lol nothing you said that would possibly change someone's mind
Really? The fact that he fired the people who secure nuclear weapons and monitor other nations' nuclear weapons doesn't change your mind? Loose nukes are a good thing?
Did you even read the article? You didn't, did you?
I don't care what rawstory thinks
It's not an opinion article. It's a fact. Trump fired people responsible for securing our nuclear weapons.
So go on, talk about how unsecure nuclear weapons are a good thing.
Getting rid of those people isn't evidence that they are insecure. So yes it is an opinion piece
"Getting rid of the bank guards doesn't mean it's easy to rob the bank!" That's what you're arguing now.
If the bank kept it's money in the open with only guards protecting it yeah, but that's not the case
Okay, you've reached the "nuclear weapons are just as safe when they aren't guarded as when they are guarded" level of absurdity here, so I think it's time to end this before you say something like, "global nuclear war is survivable anyway."
That's a strawman, I never argued that
I know what I said, you clearly don't understand what I'm saying. Guards aren't the banks only security measure