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Court records in an ongoing lawsuit reveal that Meta staff allegedly downloaded 81.7TB of pirated books from shadow libraries like Z-Library and LibGen to train its AI models.

Internal messages show employees raising ethical concerns, with one saying, “Torrenting from a corporate laptop doesn’t feel right.”

Meta reportedly took steps to hide the activity.

The case is part of a broader debate on AI data sourcing, with similar lawsuits against OpenAI and Nvidia.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

So the "don't be evil" crowd casually torrented 82TB of shadow library data through corporate hardware. Internal messages show researchers knew it crossed ethical lines, yet Zuck personally greenlit circumventing copyright. The cognitive dissonance of building AI empires on pirated foundations would be poetic if it weren't so predictably dystopian.

This isn't oversight—it's systemic rot. Fines become tax-deductible line items while lobbyists ensure regulatory capture. When your legal team costs more than the penalties, infringement transforms into R&D strategy. The only surprise is anyone still pretending capital understands "ethics" beyond PR gymnastics.

Meanwhile indie authors get demonetized for quoting haikus. But sure, let's investigate if open models borrowed a few ChatGPT outputs. Nothing accelerates innovation quite like megacorps rewriting IP law through sheer audacity.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine 1 points 8 hours ago

Your comments are a little odd. Why do you do all the bold callouts?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

"Don't be evil" was Google, and they abandoned that motto a while ago in favor of "think of the shareholders!"

[–] FauxLiving 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

As soon as they became a publicly tradable company they are obligated, by the Dodge v Ford ruling, to only maximize shareholder value. Being not evil isn't an option.

[–] nandeEbisu 4 points 18 hours ago

No matter what kind of company you are, you have an obligation to follow the laws of whatever jurisdictions you're doing business in.

Also, there's actually a lot of leeway in regards to doing your fiduciary duty to your shareholders. You're not obligated to maximize short term profits at the expense of long term (ie by retaining skilled employees). That's usually just a shitty board trying to suck as much money out of a company as possible and a CEO who doesn't want to get fired by the board.

I mean the whole metaverse thing was a long term play to capture a future market, which involved a lot of RnD money they just decided to light it on fire instead of making a useful product.