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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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[–] TokenBoomer 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So, the 80 million nonvoters in 2020 voted for Biden? I voted for Biden and Harris. That does not imply my consent for genocide. Complicity is only maintained through inaction. When I denounce the genocidal action, my complicity ends.

Since we’re erroneously referencing logic thought experiments, the trolley problem refutes the prisoner’s dilemma.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The thing about the dilemma is that you need to realize that the prisoners are rational, feeling people. They have good reasons to do what they do, often enough. Often their goals are good ones, compassionate ones.

They aren’t trying to scheme or sabotage one another. But they wind up doing that, because the only success condition is mutual cooperation.

That didn’t happen for us, and the outcome is boolean, pass or fail. Any move except sticking to the coalition and acting to cooperate would have doomed the effort completely, and we didn’t do that. So, here we are.

[–] TokenBoomer 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Where in the Wikipedia article does it mention “voting for the lesser evil “ is an archetype for the prisoner’s dilemma? I’m willing to change my mind, but I need actual reasons to do so.

A better understanding about the logic of voting:

The Ethics and Rationality of Voting