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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/25667361

By Liam Stack

Liam Stack, who has reported from the Middle East on and off for two decades, was part of the team that covered the war in Gaza for The Times.

Feb. 5, 2025
https://archive.ph/S2pSi

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[–] just_another_person 20 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

The same people who essentially got Trump into office are now pissed about it? You don't say...

[–] Keeponstalin 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (21 children)

There were many issues with how the Democratic Party ran their campaign. All of these issues contributed to the voter apathy that caused the Democrats to lose. Were pro-palestinian and anti-genocide a factor? Sure. Were they the main reason for the loss of the Democratic Party? Absolutely not. Their power and influence are completely marginal compared to the power and influence the Democratic Party had with their billions of dollars spent on ineffective messaging. The Democratic Party fucked up if they were trying to win. They ran to the right with Liz Cheney and Immigration, they pushed progressives away. They continued their uniparty approach to foreign policy despite every opportunity not to, at their own expense.

People who spend more time dunking on, discrediting, and demonizing pro-palestinian people, movements, and organizations, than standing with marginalized groups against Fascism, have never genuinely cared about Palestinian emancipation or equal rights for marginalized people.

Is it understandable to be mad at everyone who didn't vote Democratic? Absolutely. Does it make sense to hyperfocus anger at anyone pro-palestinian and pro-palestinian sentiment? Absolutely not.

Solidarity is the only way forward to resist and fight against Fascism. Especially Fascism that has gone global. Palestinian emancipation is the intersection of solidarity. The intersection of fighting against global capitalism and the Fascism growing to keep it in place. We need solidarity with everyone, now more than ever. With our fellow workers, community, marginalized groups, everyone.

That includes Democrats, Independents, and even Republicans. Everyone is suffering as our material conditions continue to degrade and we get squeezed with stagnant low wages and increasingly high costs of living. People want change. It needs to be grassroots. The Democratic Party may not be popular but progressive policies are across the board. We all need to join together in solidarity and build a genuine opposition to Fascism.

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[–] just_another_person 0 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

A 1.8% difference between the vote and considering the deficits in swing states only sure accounts for the threats from the "Uncommitted" crowd.

Get off your justification high horse before you hurt yourself.

[–] Euphorazine 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

A 1.8% difference of the popular vote, but the popular vote doesn't win elections. Dems lost way more than by 1.8%

And don't forget they lost the house and senate.

[–] just_another_person 0 points 3 weeks ago

Jesus, dude. Are you here JUST to be annoying and petulant? The popular vote gap for sense. Go read state by state if you want, but less than 5% at large in the swing states, less than 1% in most. THE AVERAGE is therefore still relevant to that number.

Now go run away and play with your Legos or something.

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