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Here's something we could fix:
We have no recall option! WTF! We should have such a mechanism. We should ask Congress to enact a law where we the people can recall the president via votes if we can collect enough signatures just like we are able to do for other things.
We do. It's the 2nd amendment. Literally what it was written for, the forceful reclamation of democratic freedom should it be taken by a tyrannical leadership. Too bad everyone that actually gives a damn about that option is on red team, and blue team thinks the 2nd amendment is for killing children and nothing else.
I mean, to be fair, the red team thinks it's pretty much only for killing children too...
It's ok once they're born, god only loves fetuses.
Thank you for acknowledging the quiet leftists who take responsibility for ourselves. I've been really upset with the crisis-mining nonstop drama panic rhetoric and dis-education about firearms from the Democratic party and their sockpuppet gun-panic action groups.
(While they openly perpetuate systematic issues that increase likelihood of gun violence, of course.)
Now firearms ownership is disproportionately in the hands of conspiracy nuts and goose-stepping good-ol-boys, while many liberals are dogmatically hoplophobic and ignorant about them.
Reminder that the Socialist Rifle Association is a thing.
Educate your friends, get them out to the range, and by Almighty God keep close social ties on each other's mental health.
I want to solve our problems with words and witty reparté, but all those safeguards are quickly breaking down and we're seeing an increasing threat of mobilizing angry everyday-sadists looking to hurt people, and stern memorandums aren't gonna cut it.
Except that’s not what it was written for. That’s a modern interpretation.
The 2nd amendment was written because Madison believed a standing army would make the Federal government too powerful, so he didn’t want a large standing army. He wanted each state to have a militia made up of citizens. He changed his mind on the matter after the War of 1812.
You know the 2nd amendment wasn’t about allowing overthrows of the government because the government put down rebellions with weapons in the years following its adoption.
This is exactly why I've always maintained that the 2nd amendment against tyranny is complete and utter horseshit. There will never, ever, be a case in which civilians can take up arms against the US government and have any remote shot of doing anything. Any tyrannical government will get to where they are with such significant support they will be so ridiculously protected you'd have to take on the entire military and legal branches of the USA.
In 1814 when everyone had a flintlock pistol? Sure. Now? Have fun getting remote drone striked before you even step foot into Washington D.C.
The Taliban won and they don't have advanced technology.
Yeah, let's just organize 100,000+ people right under the nose of the US government, on the damn homefront, to overthrow a tyrannical government, all the while being spied on via every backdoor on Earth by the NSA. Good luck and have fun having your house burned down.
Let's pretend any of that actually matters and the US government doesn't have a history of losing to locals, and ask the following: what happens if you willingly disarm yourself? Criminals will still have guns, your police will still shoot "less-lethal" rounds into the heads of protesters, and you will still be oppressed.
What do you get out of this? A fraction of the illusion of safety? And all it cost you was the last defense against oppression anyone has.
I really don't care to get into overarching discussion of the 2nd amendment, it's been done to death. It's also not what this conversation was about.
Then just move. I know the current administration is happy you are spreading propaganda that states to roll over since there's nothing to do. You are the maga hero.
Look, I'm not saying to just roll over, but wtf are we supposed to do. The second amendment is there, I don't see anyone utilizing it, and I don't think they ever will.
The 2A is there for you to do things, but it's not only simply about rising up. It's about instrumentalization. When every citizen can be armed "just in case", all you need is for that to statistically compound into a Luigi or two getting three lucky marked shots on the tyrant du jour.
If only the current administration could be paralleled with start of nazi germany with evocative imagery and slogans and made into memes and posted everywhere in order to get past the internet censoring. That could get more people thinking that a government they do not control is in nobody's interests or something.
When CW II kicks off some people will be caught, some people will be thrown in prison, and some people will be killed.
Remember it's "home of the brave", not "home of the cowards".
I have yet to be proven otherwise.
It's already been proven.
Ah, okay, my bad.
Yeah idk man, once they start putting IEDs on I-90 things are gonna change real quick.
I believe in the 2nd Amendment, but certainly NOT to overthrow the government for light and transient causes. I don’t take Trump lightly, but he hasn’t turned into a total despot yet. There is grave risk, but there’s also a chance his abuses will lead to reforms that limit Executive branch powers. I think many non-Republicans like our guns as much as Republicans, but we don’t bluster about them and unlike Republicans we don’t rebel because our candidate lost an election.
From a VA employee:
https://open.substack.com/pub/progressreport/p/revenge-of-the-whiny-pampered-baby?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=2lkdbh
I don't know what you think despotism looks like, but this sure as hell isn't democracy nor is it a republic. This has nothing to do with losing an election, this has to do with some people's fantasy that Trump will ever give up power. I guess we need to wait until evidence surfaces, and then only iron clad evidence that the worst is happening will possibly motivate them, maybe.
I disagree with your overall assessment that we are experiencing "light" or "transient" causes for general revolt.
I think the most likely the despotism and the scenario @[email protected] describes will not happen. The thing is if they do happen, they are disastrous. It's similar to how in Russian roulette you'll probably be fine. I don't know what level of risk justifies a armed rebellion. At this point an armed rebellion would turn a disaster that might happen into a certain disaster.
I am not saying to appease them or not protest. I am still hoping the US can be saved without violent rebellion.
My friend, it's already happening, a lot of it has already happened.
The Gleichschaltung is already in motion, they are throwing out the mainstream press in favour of OANN and Breitbart from the Pentagon for example. They are building a "new media", pushing thousands of random influencers and podcasters to drown out established news outlets. Trump is extorting CBS for billions just because he can.
Institutions are being actively dismantled, some could resist, but the OPM is in serious peril. They are basically planning to replace everyone and building a new state apparatus.
This is not bluster and promises, this is actually happening, a lot of it has already happened and can't easily be undone, and almost none of it was legal.
Trump is already sending threats all over the world, and a lot of countries are tring to appease him. For now, he's seeing what he can get away with. We'll see what he'll do once he sees that Canada won't do an Anschluss.
It's new that politicians take conspiracy zines seriously. It's up to the people not to take them seriously and be suspicious of any politician who prefers them over journalists.
I head he effectively took a bribe of millions by their settling a bogus lawsuit. Decades ago this would have been a huge scandal. Anything where a politician even appears to use the office to get money in their pocket looks horrible to me. I don't understand why MAGA supporters abide this.
I do not approve of the illegal way in which they're doing it, but I have long wanted to decrease the size, intrusiveness, and cost of government. I want government to be more nimble. I have hope that they're doing this because an illegal blitz, sold to the masses who pay little or no income tax as being anti-anti-bigotry, is the only practical way to shrink government. That's me hitting the copium hard. It could be an effort to consolidate power.
If Trump threatens Canada militarily, you will be proven right, and my hope will be proven to be unjustified.
That moment was Jan 6th. There was no heavy and hard change in Hitler's Germany from the Beer Hall Putsch all the way to Stalingrad and the gas chambers. It's all boiling the frog from here to there. Every change will seem like a light and transient one. By the time you feel you should go all in on the 2A, you will be mostly alone. That is by design.
In fact, we are already in the Gleichschaltung and the appeasement phase.
dude... they're making concentration camps. This isn't just a "candidate"
Not just the president, but any elected official.
Now why would the elected officials do something to their own detriment? You want them to act like representatives or how they've been acting?
Many states have done things like that. the problem is for the feds its all defined in the constitution so getting an overwhelming majority to agree to limit power needs an overwhelming push.
Imo the best thing to do would be push for a constitutional amendment that creates an initiative system that fully bypasses congress.