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[–] Carmakazi 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Third Reich used lots of beasts of burden for their logistics as well. Makes sense when you want to save your oil and steel for fighting vehicles ~~because your industrial base ain't all that~~.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oddly enough, when the nazis were fighting russia, everyone expected a quick swift blow to moscow to seize the city early, and take the nation.

What shocked everyone is that they instead went south, and ignored russia. Which didn't make a lot of sense at the time. But now we know it's because hitler had ordered them to reroute to some fuel refineries and oil pumps in the middle east. Basically, they had enough fuel to reach moscow, but not much else. And by that I don't mean the squad marching to moscow, I mean the entire nazis offensive. The whole country was out of oil. If they had marched to moscow, they'd be stuck in moscow, because thats all the fuel germany had.

So they rerouted south to go hijack some fuel. Which in context makes sense. But it also caused just enough of a delay that when they got to russia, the winter had come. So now they're burning fuel just to stay alive. But still stuck in russia, because WWII german tanks don't roll in snow.

Basically to preserve fuel they would have had to go straight to moscow and win early. But to get fuel they had to reroute and cause delay which burned a lot of the fuel they just stole.

Turns out, leading a massive army across land as big as russia burns a lot of fuel. Turns out it's a logistical nightmare.

Which is funny, because NOW we know russia to be less of a country, and more as a gas station cosplaying as a country.

[–] Buddahriffic 1 points 2 hours ago

Hitler also got sidetracked trying to deal a morale blow by capturing Stalin's namesake city. But instead, that army got cut off from supplies, encircled, and destroyed/captured after running out of ammo and gas entirely.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

hitler wanted to conquer russia. he needed to conquer Ukraine

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Germany had huge shortages of metal and fuel all throughout the war. Russia has resources, they’re just apparently awful at logistics.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Or maybe for some unknown reason, it seems there are less workers than there used to be.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

Apparently containerisation is still not widespread in Russia, and most of their (civilian and military) shipping is breakbulk like it’s the 1930s.