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The democrats are refusing to employ any of the government-breaking strategies the republicans just proved, over years as a minority party, can bring the government to crawl. Worse than that, they are enabling everything the republicans are doing. They aren't even putting up a fight. They'd rather be "civil" and "the adults in the room" than actually stop fascism. They are controlled opposition.
I get the first picture but the second? We know democrats do not vote lockstep and we have pretty traitorous members like fettermen are among them. I see 37 voting correctly. This is one thing about when they are in power. People expect them to vote in lockstep like the republicans but that has never been the case.
They expect democratic voters to.
not really. they expect folks to choose better in the choice of better or worse.
When they won't.
mine do. I can effect the election of two senators and one representative.
No, I mean that when Democratic legislators are presented with a choice of better or worse, just enough of them always choose worse, but expect greater loyalty from the voters.
I don't think they expect greater loyalty from voters but my rep and senators vote for better as do most democrats and no republicans. so republicans are all bad all the time and democrats are mostly good and when in charge have better outcomes.
Aren't you just a little suspicious that it always works out that way?
Not really. I like the better outcomes. I would like to see them continue. If the dems were in charge for a decade and the improvements did not continue then I would be suspicious but since they tend to be given just enough time to pick up the pieces I can't really blame them.
So, you're essentially saying this is normal for democrats? It's normal for them to go to bat for republicans? How is that a defense?
It never ceases to amaze me how hard people go in making excuses for democrats.
no its more that some democrats are not very much of ones. usually in swing states. I actually agree they should not vote for canidates based on electability but that is a problem with the electorate of the state with the primaries. But yeah democratic canidates in red states can be very conservative but repbulican canidates in blue states will still be very conservative. which is why you don't want to be voting for them at any level no matter what bs they spew because they will always toe the line which has mostly meant get rid of regulations and lower taxes on the wealthy.
That's just a No True Scotsman. "The subset of democrats who vote in line with Republicans, thus making all other democrats' resistance moot, are simply not real democrats"
Not really. Its the reality of a republic. I can't vote for democrats outside of the ones who represent me. I am good with their voting records. I cannot effect who gets voted into other states but I can see the history. I am also good with the democratic presidential canidates like biden over trump or kamala over trump. so I vote that way with them. I would encourage people in other states to vote for better democratic canidates as better repbulican ones will 100% vote lockstep with the party no matter what they say while the democrat may do what they said they would. I honestly don't know what those democrats campaigned on.