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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 101 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They raise taxes on the middle class to make people hate taxes so they vote for smaller government.

They’ve been doing it since the 80s. God how I wish our politics weren’t in a death spiral. It’s so boring.

[–] Kryptenx 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Educate the next generation. My kids demonize taxes based off a short video but then get a quick education. Taxes aren't the devil, the rich dudes who aren't paying their share are causing your burden to be higher. Billionaires aren't always the enemy, but look at Amazon wages and it's an easy way to show them that hoarded wealth generally comes from keeping others down. It takes a bit longer, but elders are the only entity that can counter the bullshit they're being fed.

[–] smeenz 1 points 1 day ago

The problem with taxing the super rich is that their weath isn't in the form of taxable income, it's mostly in the form of stock, and doesn't become cash until it is sold. Selling stock, especially if the CEO is the selling lots of stock, causes the value of the stock to decrease, so they don't like to sell it at all. What billionaires do to pay for their day to day expenses is to take out loans, using their stock as collateral on that loan. No bank is going to deny a loan backed by Tesla stock, or space-x stock.. that's guaranteed interest for them with basically no risk. The value of the stock them increases over time, more than the interest payments do, and then they pay it back, coming out financially better than they were when they took out the loan. The only way that billionaires could really be taxed is if the government was to tax them on the value of all stock that is held at the start of the tax year, and not just when it is sold. Some countries do this, I don't think (?) the USA does.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Billionaires aren’t always the enemy

Uh, yeah they are

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

wouldn't be billionaires if they were allies

[–] RamenJunkie 4 points 2 days ago

Billionaires are always the enemy.

You do not get to even 1 billion without causing massive indirect harm to a shitload of people. No one, no one, every, has put in enough to "earn" 1 billion. The vast majority of people will work their entire lives and be lucky to have a gross total income of a few million. Thats Gross, not worth or wealth, thats, "I took money in and spent it to live."

I would argue anyone worth much over 10 million is in the same harm causing boat as billionaires.