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[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Keep in mind that nonstick cookware is still very safe when handled correctly. The problem lies in the manufacturing of these needed chemicals. When these chemicals get into the environment, because of improper safety management, it will stay there for hundreds of years, taking it's toll on flora and fauna.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (19 children)

very safe when handled correctly

Too many people are not educated about that.

The problem lies in the manufacturing of these needed chemicals. When these chemicals get into the environment, because of improper safety managemen

Which is one of the reasons for that law, see:

Dubbed "Amara's Law" after 20-year-old cancer victim Amara Strande, who in 2023 succumbed to a rare type of liver cancer linked to PFAS after growing up near a Minnesota-based 3M plant that dumped them into the local water supply, the new regulation bans the chemicals and any items made with them from being sold within the state.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And how do you dispose of it correctly? Cookware shouldn’t need to come with an MSDS sheet

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[–] nialv7 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Does Teflon even break down into PFAS at all? From what I read I think it doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Teflon is a pfas

PTFE and chemicals used in its production are some of the best-known and widely applied PFAS

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wait, it's not the material on the Pans?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

It is the material on the pans, but the only case where the companies making the stuff were successfully sued was when they were caught for dumping intermediates of the chemical in to a tributary of Ohio river.

It’s hard to pin down how impactful the coatings on the pans are because of how many other sources of these kinds of fluorocarbons are in house hold items, and in the environment due to large companies disposing of them recklessly. We know for a fact that basically everyone has some level of these compounds in them due to their ubiquity.

The pans are just one potential source and a particularly notable one because they’re in contact with food.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

That's the first part, used correctly it's a non issue so just use your nonstick correctly.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Using nonstick correctly: Dont use anything but silicone spatulas on it, do not use more than 50% of your stoves power or gas stove or you will get cancer and die. Buy a new one every 5 years anyway since it somehow became stick pan.

Using stainless pan: Find it from some junk metal pile, discover it was manufactured in the roman empire, give it a good scrub. Use it on any source imaginable and when hawk thuah slides around instead of sizzles, it's good to go.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Please don't hawk tuah your pans while cooking

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[–] I_Miss_Daniel 23 points 2 days ago

In other words don't do what I did and put half a litre into a $6 pot on your new induction cooktop and set it to 2kW to see how long it takes to boil.

It boils quick.

It then boils more enthusiastically than you've ever seen before, and a cancerous stench fills the air as the coating breaks down and the pot deforms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

recent studies have stated that the pans offgas from manufacturing for weeks after you've bought them, no heating needed, so no, that's not correct. and it was known that they offgas at only 325ºF years ago. https://www.ewg.org/research/canaries-kitchen

so no, teflon pans are bad no matter how you use them, they're bad for the environment, they're bad for your health, they're bad for animals, they're bad for babies that haven't been born yet.

[–] Valmond 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Like throw it away every 6 months.

Edit: or 1 or 2 years, it was hyperbole. Instead of like never throwing it out?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The nonstick pans I've using are several years old now without any signs of deteriorating nonstick surfaces. Use cookware out of wood or plastic to not scrape off the coating.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I have 1 big nonstick and 1 small nonstick. They never saw high heat, they never saw ANY metal instruments, when stored they are protected by felt so nothing hard touches them, they never seen a steel sponge and they still became regular stick pans 2 years into their lifespan. Before you say "skill issue buying the pan" they were mid level (expensive pans for no cooks) pans from a reputable company. I have been a pro chef as well. Nonsticks are a wear item even if you treat them like shit on a stick. My oldest stainless is like 40 years old, has a huge dent on the side and works the same as it did on day one. I dug it out of someones fishing shed.

[–] FuglyDuck 7 points 2 days ago

I have a kitchen full of nonstick pans. They’ve been in use since my grandma’s mom.

Got them from grandma.

Don’t freak out but cast iron was the OG nonstick, right?

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[–] idunnololz 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I've had mine for 2 years now. It's still non stick and I cook extremely regularly. Eg. 90% of my meals are cooked by me. I think some non stick pans are shit though because one of the ones I own started deteriorating after a year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] idunnololz 3 points 1 day ago

All the cancer

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