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[–] jordanlund -3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The left suddenly has no problem with a gerontocracy if we're talking about Bernie Sanders (83, 1 year older than Biden) or Elizabeth Warren (75).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

That’s sort of a blanket statement, and I don’t think it really applies about Warren and Sanders.

My sense is that most folks feel that Bernie is too old. And I didn’t realize EW was 75, but in contrast to both Biden and Trump, I haven’t seen Sanders or Warren randomly zone out and have an ‘old person’ moment on camera.
They both still seem mentally sharp. Whether or not that’s a function of having less press exposure and a greater ability to choose when they appear before the cameras is an unknown.

Not advocating for them, mind you, because I do think they’re too old. Just adding that I think their perceived sharpness allows them to avoid those criticisms.

[–] Ensign_Crab 3 points 5 days ago

The center had a huge problem with Sanders' age in 2016. That went away in 2020.

[–] blattrules 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My point was that age only became a talking point in regard to Biden and that’s the only person in the aforementioned gerontocracy that seems to have been affected by the younger voters being fed up, so we’re essentially saying the same thing.

But why single out “the left?” Grassley won reelection two years ago and he’s 91 and afaik plans to run again in 2028.

[–] jordanlund 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Generally it's young Democratic voters complaining, but again, same voters who support Sanders and Warren.

We saw a little bit of it, but not enough of it, with Diane Feinstein. I'm surprised we're not hearing it about Nancy Pelosi. If you're old enough to fall and break a hip, you probably shouldn't be in office.

[–] idiomaddict 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don’t disagree with any of that, except that it’s way easier to break a hip (especially if you’re a woman who’s given birth in the previous few years) than most people realize. We’re generally really good at walking when we’re younger, so it’s not as common to fall (especially not without catching yourself and minimizing the damage), but a fall onto ice or stone at the wrong angle could damage a lot of 30 and 40 year olds’ pelvises.

I was very stupid and playing Pokémon go while drunk on a wet, mossy cobblestone road at 29, and I fell and broke my arm and eye socket. I lift weights and am generally strong and healthy, but it was just a bad angle. It took drunkenness, distraction, and a slippery and uneven surface to get me to fall without catching myself, but once I did, it’s not hard to do damage.

Edit: I will grant you: drunk Pokémon players do not show the level of judgment that I want from elected officials, but walking to work on an icy sidewalk if it’s your only transportation option is not an error of judgment and it’s more dangerous than people realize.

[–] blattrules 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah, agreed that they’re all too old. Bernie is great, but I’d have expected him to retire by now.