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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not so fun facts:

  • Food prices arent going down
  • Inflation isnt going down either
  • The price of everything will skyrocket (Biden will be blamed)
  • Wages will remain stagnant in the absolute best case scenario (they will likley go down)
  • In order to "reduce" the effects of the above regulations on products will rapidly disappear. Because of that the quality of food will decrease, houses will be made on a lower safety standard, and workplaces will became unsafe. Deregulation will cause a mass explosion in profit, none of it will be seen by the workers.
  • The wealthiest will be made extremely wealthy (similar to the gilded age)
  • Women, POC, Queer people, disabled people, poor people, and multiple other types of people will suffer

In the next four years the intelligence and strength of American workers will be tested. Do you fall in line or do you break your chains?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Women, POC, Queer people, disabled people, poor people, and multiple other types of people will suffer

One major group of people seems to be always left out of these lists as if they're unaffected by everything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Argonne 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The middle class

These smug comments are the reason Trump is in office now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I meant men in general but otherwise you're correct. Let's ignore roughly half of the population and treat them as second class citizens and the cause for all problems in the world and then act all surprised they're not voting for us.

[–] crystalmerchant 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imma guess they mean rich white men

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah truly the most oppressed people, rich white cishet male christians

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is that a "major group of people"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not really but the right thinks they are

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

How about just average (lower) middle class men? You know, the group of people voting for Trump due to being ignored/treated like shit by everyone else?

[–] Telodzrum -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Inflation is already down, drastically and has been consistently so for over a year.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Just want to note here that inflation going down doesn't mean the prices will drop. It only means they stop increasing or the increase slows down. For prices to go down we'd need to be experiencing deflation which is incredibly bad for the economy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

When people talk about "the economy" they almost always mean Wall Street. That has less and less to do with the economic environment that those of us outside of the 1% live with every day.

Lower prices are bad for "the economy", but they are often good for the vast majority of us. We aren't the ones who benefit, even indirectly, from businesses making more money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Well, that’s a very U.S.-centric perspective, but no, I’m not talking about Wall Street - I’m talking about the economy as a whole. Deflation means the value of money is increasing, which discourages people from spending since their money will be worth more tomorrow than it is today. This hurts businesses across the board, creating a deflationary spiral where reduced spending leads to lower revenues for businesses, forcing them to cut costs, lay off workers, or close entirely.

As businesses suffer, incomes decline, further reducing consumer spending and exacerbating the cycle. Making big purchases is particularly disincentivized because waiting a year or two means you can get them cheaper. What’s good for the economy is people having money to spend and actually spending it, but deflation disrupts this balance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

That was a US-centric perspective, although I think it applies more generally. What you're talking about is classic economic theory, which was a pretty accurate picture in the past. More recent developments suggest that some important things have changed in the actual economy over the last half-century, which have been reflected in new economic theories.

The central problem is that businesses are no longer as sensitive to traditional market factors. Monopoly, collusion, and the capture of regulatory functions have allowed businesses far more control over both their markets and their labor costs. Meanwhile, wealth inequality has drastically reduced the amount of discretionary income that is available. The traditional economic model still mostly applies to the wealthy and what's left of the middle class. The majority of consumers no longer have the means to participate as they did.

Neither inflation nor deflation address wealth inequality. The relationship between salaries and prices is broken. Traditional economic indicators assume that businesses doing better means the average person does better, but that is no longer the case. Most of the gains now go to wealthy investors. That leaves us with a situation where the traditional economy looks great, but large numbers of people can no longer afford housing or food. Unless you are part of the 1%, that is not really a good economy.

[–] Pregnenolone 2 points 2 days ago

Average rate of inflation means some things can come down in price, but are offset by other items going up. It’s not absolute.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only thing that would cause deflation is innovation or reduced demand, and there’s not a lot of innovation in food, and everyone but anorexics seem determined to eat.

[–] Entropywins 1 points 2 days ago

I skipped breakfast just doing my part to help...