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[–] carl_dungeon 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This may be true and if so, bravo for them! But China says shit ALL THE TIME that is totally untrue or has insane caveats. I’ll reserve my thoughts until the results are verified- both claims (power usage, and comparable performance/accuracy).

[–] CosmoNova 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

And even if it‘s true I‘m curious what it has to say about the Tiananmen Square massacre, Mao’s head count or the Corona pandemic. Huawei’s recent AI model that was developed for the western market failed to answer these and other uncomfortable questions with flying colors. Instead it gets very passive aggressive if you even briefly imply China isn’t the perfect utopia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't chat-gpt do literally the same in case you ask it on anything controversial? I think it is a quite basic thing for AI models.

[–] CosmoNova 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s definitely not the same. You can be annoyed that ChatGPT sometimes says “It’s a complicated matter” then mentions some pros and cons but ultimately wants to move on to a different topic. It’s something else when the model says the pandemic originating in Wuhan is a huge lie and evil western propaganda. The Huawei model is very defensive and can quickly sound like an angry child. It’s painfully pro CCP.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Alright, gonna agree somewhat with ChatGPT, they do have one of the better lackluster censors. But even then, models like Bard exist. If you ask those anything related to the Israel's genocide of the Palestinian people for example, it will simply refuse to answer. It is literally the same thing as with Huaweis model

[–] Dead_or_Alive 1 points 3 days ago

They probably did build it. It’s possible they sourced the necessary chips through intermediaries. Sanctions aren’t going to stop them from getting their hands on small batches.

Sanctions will prevent them from being able to do this at scale. They can’t source enough high end chips to really build out the infrastructure to take advantage of AI for their economy at large.

[–] cyd 2 points 4 days ago

It would be foolish of them to lie considering their model is open source and uploaded to a public repository. The hardware specs for running it are pretty steep, but third parties are already doing it.