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[–] inclementimmigrant 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

God damn, crap like this is why I hate saying I support progressives. I have to keep reminding myself that Internet progressives, Bernie or bust bros, non-pragmatic jackasses aren't who most progressives are.

So you blame Obama for being a bad president too since he couldn't get the public option in?

Do you blame progressives in the party that couldn't make the case for BBB?

You don't always get what you want 100% of the time and a decent amount of green energy that was under the BBB did get into the IRA after getting fucked by Manchin and yeah Biden was part of that progress of bringing that asshole to heel.

God, whiney ass progressives that just dismiss the good done for the lack of being perfect just pisses me off so much, stop being the enemy of progress and actually listen to what progressive leaders say and make progressive progress even if it's just an inch.

Fucks sake, was Biden the best, most progressive president? Fuck no. Could he have some a lot better? Yes. But he did a lot of good, he did advance some progressive ideas, and strengthened the unions a bit.

[–] givesomefucks -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you blame Obama for being a bad president too since he couldn’t get the public option in?

Yeah, and for a lot of other stuff...

I think that's the confusion and why you're so upset with progressives.

It is a lot more complicated than cheering your "team" and booing everyone else. When things get complicated, frustration is a natural reaction.

[–] inclementimmigrant 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

With that answer I think you're just a typical crappy Internet progressive.

Clearly you only care about your team, your ideological purity, and not making actual progress, you don't care about complexity or how shit actually works in real life and don't actually want to put any real effort in making change.

Have a good day.