Seagal has been accused by former stunt performers who have worked with him, including Kane Hodder, Stephen Quadros, and Gene LeBell, of intentionally hitting stuntmen during scenes. Additionally, while serving as stunt coordinator for Out for Justice, LeBell allegedly got into an on-set altercation with Seagal over his mistreatment of some of the film's stunt performers. After the actor claimed that, due to his aikido training, he was "immune" to being choked unconscious, LeBell offered Seagal the opportunity to prove it. LeBell is said to have placed his arms around Seagal's neck, and once Seagal said "go", proceeded to choke him unconscious, with Seagal losing control of his bowels. Seagal bodyguard and stuntman Steven Lambert stated he was present and said that a confrontation did happen, during which Seagal elbowed LeBell before he could lock the hold on Seagal, after which LeBell flipped Seagal.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 hours ago (15 children)

A movie producer I worked with in my time in the industry had done a movie with Segal in which Segal was to shoot a gun. Segal said he would only use a very specifically modified AR15. The production purchased the AR with all of the upgrades Segal requested. Segal fired it one time, said it was too loud and had too much kickback and he wanted to use a prop instead.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce 35 points 10 hours ago (11 children)

He said an AR-15 had too much recoil? Is he made of tissue paper, or did they mod it to fire artillery shells? Christ, one of the demos they did for us at our first live fire in basic training was having one of our fellow soldiers hold an M-16 stock UP TO HIS NUTS and fire it downrange to show just how little recoil they had. I'm not kidding, I personally witnessed this. I have also put at least 20,000 rounds through M-16's and AR-15's in my life. They don't kick. Seagal is a pussy.

[–] SupraMario 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

It's why they're in common use and one of the best things for home defense. Basically anyone can handle one

Edit: ITT... people who think a shotgun with birdshot isn't going through walls and is easier to use than a AR. In close distances, birdshot is a slug and will %100 go through walls.

[–] Odelay42 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't use an AR for home defense because I'm not interested in shooting through 4 walls and killing my neighbors kid by accident.

I believe bird shot is enough of a deterrent for home defense and requires significantly less precision in a tense situation.

[–] SupraMario -2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

I wouldn't use an AR for home defense because I'm not interested in shooting through 4 walls and killing my neighbors kid by accident.

Have you ever shot a gun before? Drywall isn't stopping shit. Handgun rounds go through walls easily.

I believe bird shot is enough of a deterrent for home defense and requires significantly less precision in a tense situation.

You shot to kill not wound, and a shotgun isn't easier to use than an AR, on top of that birdshot is not fanning out at 10' in your home... it's basically a slug at that distance and will %100 go through drywall.

You've been reading some really FUDD shit if you believe anything you typed up.

Edit: lol at people upvoting that complete nonsense comment to this one. Please for the love of Cthulhu people don't buy a shotgun and leave it in your home for home defense and do not load it with fucking birdshot...get a handgun if you're afraid of an AR.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

it’s basically a slug at that distance and will %100 go through drywall.

Hey it's gotta go through some fiberglass, glued-together wood chips, and plastic siding too. They just need a few layers of wet tissue paper on there as well and they'll be golden.

[–] Lightor 1 points 40 seconds ago

So you understand how birdshot is different than a FMJ? A pellet isn't going through 3 walls, a FMJ is. There is massively more penetration and lethality after penetration. Have you ever shot a gun?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Except for kindergartners

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Now wondering if there are six-year-olds in Africa using M16/AR-15 style rifles as part of some warlord's army. I guess they don't get to go to kindergarten, though.

[–] SupraMario 1 points 8 hours ago

AK47, no US arms are there being used, it's a popular rifle here, but anywhere else in the world its AKs and SKSs and Mosins. The amount of those variants built in the world is probably 5Xs the AR variants out there. The mosins alone are like 100+ million built.

[–] Lightor 1 points 2 minutes ago

A long gun is not good for home defense. A pistol is much better in CQC. Also a shotgun does require much less aiming in a high stress situation. You're just being silly.

Source: bored out of my mind in the UMSC stained at 29 Palms and did Mohave Viper combat training stuff a ton.

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