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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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[–] bassomitron 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, there might be some copycats, but I'm dubious. This reignited the healthcare and wealth gap conversation, but that's about it. Nothing meaningful will come from this in regards to our legislature taking action to help the lower and middle classes out.

This guy is likely to go to jail for a long time. Law enforcement spared no expense tracking him down, catching him within days even after making a relatively clean getaway after a fairly well executed plan. Not many people have nothing to lose and/or have no fear of those kinds of consequences.

In my opinion, until around 30% of our country is on the verge of starvation, unemployment, and/or homelessness, there won't be a mass movement that chooses to take forceful action. And even if that occurs, you can guarantee all the fancy police state surveillance they've put in place over the last 20-some-odd years will get dialed up to 11.

[–] Pronell 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fairly well-executed plan? Dude was eating in public in the same jacket he wore that day.

Not to mention going without the mask at Starbucks and keeping the manifesto and weapon.

He wasn't trying to seriously evade capture. But I think he was close to having a chance.

[–] bassomitron 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And yet the only reason he was caught as soon as he was, was because a McDonald's employee wanted $50,000 (and didn't even end up getting the money anyway).

I didn't say it was a flawless plan or even great, just that he did evade authorities for days despite the insane amount of resources NYPD poured into finding him.

[–] ultranaut 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He was 100% getting caught regardless of who reported seeing him. The only chance he had was ditching everything and running forever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

If he made it overseas, it would have been much harder.

I think he would have been much better off going immediately to a lawyer, and go into hiding for a while. Her could have afforded to Doordash some Mickey D's.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's very strange. He had a ghost gun and all those IDs, and then went to get a McChicken.

I think he got cold feet when he realized he might have to stay on the run for the rest of his life.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He just needed to make it to a country that doesn’t extradite. I find it surprising he had to know how to find this guy at the right place and time, successfully shoot him despite the gun not firing right, and get away from the crime in surveillance dystopia NYC. He succeeded in all of that and then got caught with all the evidence right on him in a McDs in bumblefuck PA? It makes no sense. Unless he wanted to get caught? Murder clouded his judgement after? He’s not the guy?

[–] Mirshe 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm gonna put on my tinfoil hat and say "he's not the guy". My guess is they found someone who LOOKS like him, and want to fasttrack the case to calm the investor class down. Look at the big "therapy" call Kathy Hochul just put together with a bunch of NY CEOs - they're terrified. 9/11 proved to them they aren't invulnerable to random acts of violence, and now this proves to them they're not even UNTOUCHABLE by someone committed. They're asking for state-level protections, National Guard-style stuff IIRC, round-the-clock guards at their houses and workplaces. This is conjuring up the early 1900s again, when ACTUAL anarchists and socialists simply shot the owner of the factory in the head at his home, or at his job, or tried to bomb them on their way to get lunch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah they realized they’re not invincible. I’m 50/50 about him being the guy. Part of the story checks out (his backstory) and part doesn’t (such a clean kill and getaway and then get caught in bumblefuck pa at a McDs?)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think that a lot of Americans have nothing to lose

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

And that number will be increasing drastically after Trump's fascism takes over.