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[–] Stern 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Tenth amendment is fairly clear on that one, one would think-

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Unless I missed something about cars in the constitution, of course. Interstate travel falls under the purview of the fed, but requiring gas cars for it doesn't really hold weight. I suppose we could look at the transition from horse to car and see how that played out legally though.

[–] stupidcasey 0 points 2 days ago

You seemed to have missed the Civil War, not justifying Slavery but that was the point that the Country decided that the federal government can overrule state rule if they don’t like it. No matter what the paperwork says the government always has final say by threat of invasion.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not talking anything of "well, technically this is aloud because of this" yadda yadda yadda. That's irrelevant. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do something.

I'm saying you shouldn't do it. Did you know that over 25% of the cars on the roads today are over 15 years old? Do you have any idea what it will do to people who have to drive these older vehicles, because they can't afford newer ones, if in the future they have batteries that go out and will cost 4x more to fix than what they paid for the vehicle to begin with? The loads of people who will always have to pay a premium price to charge up because they can only afford to live at an apartment instead of a house with a garage?

Do you know how dirt cheap a working engine is, compared to an ev battery? That a small car engine swap can be done at home or in your buddy's garage, because they don't weigh over 1,000 pounds like a battery can?

Going EV required is a great idea! So long as you're more wealthy than half the country is. For them, you're going to make life even harder in the future. Requiring EV on new cars means that 10 years later the people who rely on cheap used vehicles are going to start getting screwed. All for one state to have slightly lower emissions in one category.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's entirely the point. You said they shouldn't be allowed to. They can.

It's entirely relevant because that's the point of your previous post where you said "the state shouldn't be allowed to do this."