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Musk and his friends are planning right now , on how to handle the menace.

Out of ego or the Principe that 'you don't treat with terrorist" they will never allow free healthcare (at least, as long trump is in power).

So what will they do?

Fly a plane into another tower? Found "evidence" that Luigi is a pedophile? distract us with a war with china? Enforce gun control? Ban gun 3d printing? Just enroll more bodyguards they will never trust?

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[–] kava 4 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I think the smart move, from Trump, would be to announce he supports public healthcare. That the American people have spoken and bla bla bla, he's the voice of the people. He would immediately jump 15 points in popularity.

of course a lot of people would lose money and there's an ingrained power structure that will fight that tooth and nail. but Trump has dismantled and taken over powerful existing power structures before (ie the GOP).

this would help him if he really does want to radically change the country into a psuedo-fascist oligarchy thing which seems to be Musk's and Thiel's goal

[–] ooli 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is a good plan. I suspect, he would be afraid to lose some popularity from his base, by supporting healthcare. Like it happened when he got vaccinated during covid

[–] kava 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Trump's base is more nuanced, I think. If he starts the rhetoric bashing "big pharma" and "corrupt CEOs" then I think his base will fall in line.

That's the thing with Trump. His policies don't actually need to be logically coherent with traditional GOP values.

For example, GOP has historically championed low regulation, low taxes, and free market capitalism. This has been hammered home until it's become almost an autonomic verbal tic or religious phrase ("inshallah" "god bless our troops")

But then he comes and he loudly and repeatedly pushes for tariffs - instating large and broad taxes that restrict free market capitalism. And what happens? His base cheers him on for it.

Or for example GOP has historically been supportive of illegal immigrants. Look at Ronald Reagan, another quasi-religious symbol of the GOP. He gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants. Legalized them and supported immigration. Why? Because it's good for free market capitalism.

What about Trump? He goes the other way. Wants to restrict the import of labor as much as possible, hurting free market capitalism.

See what I mean? It doesn't actually matter what his real policies are. That's what I find fascinating about him. I think he has the power to take universal healthcare and actually implement it in this country if he wanted to. And that it would cement his legacy permanently.

Which to me, is something a megalomaniac would want

[–] ooli 4 points 4 days ago

you got a point. It is proven, that ultimately voters don't care for policy as long as they are supported by their candidate/party of choice (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9831368/). It could probably be the most ideal scenario. I wonder if trump could try it

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