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[–] TropicalDingdong 112 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The UK has a long tradition of pieing awful politicians - and guess what? It gets a laugh and memable pictures, but changes nothing.

[–] b3an 1 points 5 days ago

John Prescott looked like he deserved it xD

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

UHC CEO gets assassinated. Policies unchanged.

I keep saying this- you cannot assassinate your way into companies putting people over profits. They're legally required to do the opposite.

UHC rates will continue to rise and they will continue to deny people. CEOs are just as replaceable as every other employee in a corporation.

So you might as well throw pies in their faces and laugh at them because this is not how you solve systemic issues.

And I assume a bunch of you will be pissed off at me for saying so again, but you'll be in for a rude awakening when your insurance premium goes up and Trump decides to bring back denying for pre-existing conditions.

[–] FabioTheNewOrder 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Blue shield policy on anesthesia was changed the day after the assassination.

Policies have been changed and no pie was involved

[–] FlyingSquid -2 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You have no idea whether or not it was the assassination that changed that policy and I continue to maintain that you cannot solve a systemic problem with vigilantism.

How many CEO assassinations do you think it will take for the fully Republican-controlled legislative, executive and judicial branch to socialize the U.S. for-profit medical industry? You don't need to give me an exact number, just an estimate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

When Shinzo Abe was assassinated, most of Tetsuya Yamagami's concerns were directly addressed in policy, including the dissolution of the church he was protesting.

[–] FlyingSquid -5 points 5 days ago

You're living in a pipe dream if you think that a fascist oligarchy gives a shit about anything but making money.

[–] FabioTheNewOrder 6 points 5 days ago

And yet you cannot disprove a direct correlation between the two events, so, until we won't have a bigger dataset to analyse, both our opinions are equally valid; even if a policy change in the time span of a day and against the economic interests of this institution would skewer the hypothesis towards my interpretation rather than yours, but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully we'll have this increased dataset available in a short time ;)

To answer your question: more or less all of them. Or at least a great majority (70-80% at least), all of the people who you cited in your list are out for blood against the lower classes so I don't see anything wrong in defending ourselves from these beasts.

They'll have to be successful 100% of the times to avoid being killed, we will need just one successful try to reach our goal

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

How many CEO assassinations do you think it will take for the fully Republican-controlled legislative, executive and judicial branch to socialize the U.S. for-profit medical industry?

Only one way to find out. (Clearly I mean by recruiting the owl from the tootsie pop commercial to give us a number. I do suspect it will be greater than three, however.)

[–] FlyingSquid -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's not an answer.

Or are you admitting you can't CEO assassinate your way out of a capitalist healthcare system under a fascist government?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

No I'm just having fun at your expense, sorry. I just can't help bug giggle at how worked up you are about this whole CEO killing. Every time I see one of these comments I want to post a reply like that, you should be impressed with how many times I hold myself back.

I agree on most stuff I see you post; I just continue to be surprised at how seething you seem to be on this topic.

[–] FlyingSquid -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I didn't realize I was either worked up or seething.

Can you show why you believe that to be the case when I don't?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, Sam Eagle, if you can't already see how you sound, no amount of screenshots is going to move the needle.

I'm sorry the rest of us are enjoying this too much right now. But what I do know is that in each and every thread where we are, you will show up to scold us for it!

[–] FlyingSquid -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Apart from the many, many threads where I did no such thing. Most of the threads on the front page right now, for example.

As I keep telling people, there are so many reasons to hate me, so why lie about me?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I guess I just seem to keep finding your posts by accident as I hit these threads.

In all sincerity though, you don't have to agree that you are being a wet blanket. Just like the CEO shooting, it's OK for us to feel differently. Sorry I find it so amusing. I'll sincerely try harder not to point it out going forward.

so why lie about me?

Well, I was too lazy to hunt down a bunch of screenshots, but since you are now calling me a liar, there's this in my inbox from a couple days ago, but the link doesn't work so I think you deleted it or it was removed. I suppose this is an easy enough example.

  • It's really bugging me
  • Jesus Christ (expletive, assuming you weren't actually calling for divine assistance)
  • Attacking me on the premise that since I asked why you are handwaving away the event I must not understand how capitalism works.

You do seem pretty seething and worked up here. But like all things it's OK to disagree, and I'm sure you will!

Edit: I mean, I posted a clear joke about the tootsie pop owl, and your reply was "that's not an answer." LOL!! This is comedy gold.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

These posts are all on the front page right now. Please find where I commented in them. I mean obviously you can't since you are lying for absolutely no good reason, but I thought I'd bring the receipts since your "evidence" is a single response from three days ago.

https://lemmy.world/post/23030063?scrollToComments=true

https://lemmy.world/post/23071746?scrollToComments=true

https://lemmy.world/post/23071901?scrollToComments=true

https://lemmy.world/post/23077334?scrollToComments=true

https://lemmy.world/post/23078732?scrollToComments=true

https://lemmy.world/post/23078500?scrollToComments=true

Edit: In fact, looking at your comment history, you've talked about this subject way more than I have.

Seriously, I can list all kinds of reasons for you to point and laugh at me if you like. Don't make up new ones when you don't have to.

I deserve to be laughed at. I even deserve to be hated and before you say you don't hate me, you should.

I don't deserve to be lied about. I am not seething because this doesn't make me even remotely angry, just sad and worried. I do not post in every thread about it either.

Stop lying about me and start hating me for proper reasons. You have no idea what makes me angry and if you want to laugh at me about that, all you have to do is ask.

Because right now, for your information, all you're doing is making me even more depressed. If that was your goal, I guess congratulations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I think I have used hyperbole in a way you are interpreting as a lie, and I'm sorry for that!

I'm also sorry for this:

Because right now, for your information, all you’re doing is making me even more depressed. If that was your goal, I guess congratulations.

But it really does feel to me like every time I hit one of these threads, there's Flying Squid telling us all we're wrong to feel differently than he does about this. again