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[–] mlg 45 points 4 days ago (5 children)

ITT: Braindeads defending government censorship of the internet as if Zuckerberg won't immediately replace the void with his own platform or by buying out TikTok in a bid.

Banning one platform would not magically get rid of short attention span and brainrot you fools. Every social media company already copied or utilizes the same techniques as TikTok, which is already a massive platform because they don't spam ban or regulate content as hard as Facebook and YouTube do.

It is insulting that a Chinese run social media platform provides more freedom of speech online than its US competitors.

They're banning it to remove competition, congress does not care about its effects on privacy or health, otherwise they'd have done something about Faceebook, Insta, Twiiter, and YouTube decades ago. They pulled their usual committee shenanigans to pretend to care by calling in CEOs to testify, and then promptly accepting a shitload of lobbying money.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Agree on this except I have doubts that this statement is true

It is insulting that a Chinese run social media platform provides more freedom of speech online than its US competitors.

[–] Ostrichgrif 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah tiktok is the reason we have words like unalive, I wouldnt call it freedom of speech just incompetent moderation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Words like "unalive" are a form of doublespeak just to get around the restrictions, it's silly.

[–] Cowabunga_It_Is 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I have to admit, it's a bit bizarre seeing so many comments holding up TikTok as if it's a free speech bastion away from western-run social media companies.

[–] Katana314 0 points 3 days ago

Isn't this the one where people started saying "g*y" because there's only one sexuality and Taiwan doesn't exist?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely none of this law was ever about privacy or mental health. No one ever claimed it was. The law is banning tiktok because it is based in China. That is the reason given by the law itself. The possibility that meta or Google or some other American company will buy or replace tiktok and operate the same way is not an unintended outcome. It is literally the whole point of the law to get bytedance to sell tiktok to an American company.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hence them saying it's braindead to say otherwise.

What would be interesting to see is if other countries ban Facebook because it's a "national security risk" lol.

[–] maplebar 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

From China's perspective, Facebook probably IS a "national security risk", which is why it is already banned over there.

For American to do business and sell products in China, they almost always have to go through a Chinese company. I'm sure that's part capitalism and part accountability theater, but it's just a fact. So why is it such an outrage for America to ask TikTok to do the same?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Google is even banned in China. Most Western social media and tech platforms are banned there, and have been for decades.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Throw in that Tik Tok is banned in China, so it won't be a national security risk for them to sell it, just profit and then have to invest that money into other forms

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Because the end result of this line of thinking is every country having siloed social media and not being able to communicate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

You mean like how the entire western internet is banned in China?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Competitor lobbying doesn't even enter into it, I'd guess.

The US State Department won't tolerate Americans being exposed to media that doesn't adhere to its view of the world. What large groups of Americans think - and vitally, the bounds of what they are permitted to think - is a national security 'issue' in the eyes of the state. No such problem exists with Facebook, cable news, the establishment newspapers, etc. As Chomsky teaches, propaganda is equally about what isn't in the news.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

You think the communist party of China will allow western billionaires to buy one of their asymmetrical psyops weapon systems? Ha!

[–] Cowabunga_It_Is -1 points 3 days ago

Banning one platform would not magically get rid of short attention span and brainrot you fools.

Ah yes, the old "Taking this action won't solve all of the problems therefore we should do nothing" argument.