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[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

How are you satisfied with Joe Biden pardoning Hunter Biden and calling it a day? The rich and the powerful get justice and that's it? Why defend Biden on this one?

The Democrats refuse to use power for the sake of norms until they personally can benefit from breaking the norm. This doesn't help anyone other than Hunter Biden. They should challenge norms for the benefit of the American people. Biden has the pardon power and plenty of time left. He should use it! edit: typo

[–] pivot_root -2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It's hard to blame people for wanting to hold on to the hope that the Democratic party* isn't also self-serving. They're wrong, but their hearts are probably in the right place.

Edit: In light of the downvotes, let me clarify: I don't think either the Democrats or Republicans give a rat's ass about their voters. I'm trying to be charitable towards people here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

It's been clear since Pelosi and other Democrats were caught insider trading that most contemporary politicians are self-serving. The distinction we should care about is that for Republicans the cruelty is the point. Where as a democrats at least make an effort to make things better even if it's incremental.

Pardons would be an incremental change to a systemic problem that, while insufficient, should be well within the Democrats wheelhouse and not unwelcome.

Democrats need to stop caring about taking the moral high road and start caring about using power to help people. They can't be bothered to see the former through to the end so they might as well do the latter. The core message of Biden's 2020 campaign was a battle for the soul of our nation. Thankfully souls aren't real because Biden lost that battle hard. edit: typo

[–] MutilationWave 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Let's see what happens. By all means advocate, protest, anything. But don't most presidents do their mass pardons in like the last week if not the last days?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Presumably they were working on most of those pardons before they were issued. However I think actions presidents do at the end of their presidency get more attention. It seems like there have been lots of pardons and they don't all take place at the end of presidencies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_or_granted_clemency_by_the_president_of_the_United_States