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[–] assassin_aragorn 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately that's super weather dependent and seasonal. Plus, some of us would be a sweaty mess by the time we biked to where we needed to go.

[–] FireRetardant 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Bikes don't have to be seasonal. Some Nordic countries have well maintained and plowed biking networks and they see significant use throughout the winter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I get heat warnings every other day lately, and unless it's the rare cloudy day my UV index is at the top of the scale. I don't worry about snow here, I worry about heat and sun. I don't see a good solution for that unless you want to build covered bike routes with ventilation fans all through the metroplex?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's an unfortunate aspect of global warming I don't see talked about a lot, as more places approach wet bulb, any kind of physical activity outdoor will become deadly.

[–] assassin_aragorn 1 points 11 months ago

For me it's moreso the cold. But the act of biking should warm you up anyway. I think it really depends. The pathways are definitely clear, the question is if the weather would make someone drive vs bike.

[–] Katana314 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I would've expected winter time to invalidate options of bike transport, but in city areas where the snow doesn't stay down, it doesn't end up happening as much. You'd of course want to bundle up for the weather, but then it's not so bad. NJB has even talked about how there are some areas of the world that have permafrost under them, and they still prefer bikes. Rain, in my experience, is just miserable either way, so I'd usually prefer the flexibility to go when a downpour has halted rather than keeping a dedicated roof-mobile around to force my way through. That said, buses have been great for rain too, so again, flexibility.

The sweaty mess remark matches with my experience when I was unused to cycling, and when going uphill. The former becomes less true after even just a week or two of experience on the pedals; I didn't even need a ton of acclimation after recovering from a leg injury. The latter may be a symptom of poorer city planning - which prefers bikes treading flatlands for long distances. It shouldn't end up being tiring when you're basically moving your legs in a walking motion at a low pace (traveling for chores is naturally going to be very different from the Tour de France).

[–] assassin_aragorn 1 points 11 months ago

Hang on, the sweating goes down with more experience? I was under the assumption it'd just stay that way.

What it really comes down to for biking in the winter is how cold it is vs how much biking itself warms you up. I think most of the time it's probably fine, but there are definitely conditions where it'd be unsafe but a car wouldn't be.

What bothers me is that climate change is making those conditions more frequent, but biking is a good solution to combat emissions too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

At my old job we had showers there, so in the morning I'd just grab a quick bite and pedal off with my change of clothes in my backpack, and shower when I got there.