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[–] witten 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The omega 6/3 thing about seed oils mentioned in the article is real. It can be a big cause of inflammation. Plus, seed oils often have pretty toxic extraction procedures, especially for the cheap stuff.

But tallow and animal fats aren't the solution. Olive oil is. And I guess avocado oil if you need something more neutral and/or with a higher smoke point.

[–] Makhno 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Please share your proof of any negatives of seed oil, because it's bullshit

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Olive oil doesn't scale to match anything near current human consumption — a big chunk of what's sold as olive oil is already counterfeit.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Olives, canola and soy beans are all the same thing - they are all fruits not seeds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Canola is rapeseed

[–] witten 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't quite follow. You're saying that because not everyone can feasibly partake in healthier food, nobody should? Also, the current economic realities around certain food items aren't fixed in stone. Taxes, tariffs, regulations, and all sorts of other policy levers can make big changes to the market.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

No, I'm saying that it isn't possible significantly shift peoples' diets to olive oil from other fats and oils because olive oil consumption is supply-constrained.

[–] witten 1 points 12 hours ago

Okay.. But it's still a healthier solution than vegetable oil or tallow for the portion of the population that can be supplied with it, right?

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know about avocado oil, but you're not going to be able to solve America's love of deep fried food with olive oil both due to the cost and due to the practicality.

[–] witten 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, olive oil is not for deep frying. But maybe Americans shouldn't be having quite as much fried food? (I say this as someone who just had fried food for dinner.)

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, but switching people to less unhealthy frying oil is easier than stopping them from eating so much fried food.

[–] witten 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

As I mentioned in another comment, today's food economics are not written in stone. There are all sorts of tax and subsidy levers in the public policy toolbox. One reason, say, soybeans and soybean oil are so cheap in the U.S. today is farm subsidies.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 hours ago

But humans being drawn to fatty and sugary foods is written into our DNA. Unless you find some way to ban fried food, people are still going to eat it. A lot. You would need a massive cultural shift away from fatty and sugary foods and that would take more than taxes and subsidies because things like fried chicken and waffles are now considered part of someone's culture.

https://50kitchen.com/culinary-history-chicken-and-waffles/