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President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, prompting strong backlash from Republicans.

GOP lawmakers criticized the move as an abuse of power and an attempt to avoid accountability, with figures like Rep. James Comer and Sen. Chuck Grassley calling it hypocritical and corrupt.

Biden defended the pardon, citing “selective prosecution” and claiming Hunter was unfairly targeted due to their family connection.

Hunter faced convictions for federal gun and tax charges.

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[–] mos -5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

What do you mean by the presidential pardon thing that Trump invented?

EDIT: Also it really scares me how freely people discuss murder on Lemmy. Not just from a moral standpoint but also for you. I hope people consider the seriousness of these comments and that these comments can be used against you.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Literally, no sane person would care if Trump was killed for his crimes against the people of the US, or crimes against the people of the globe.

War sucks, and people die. He chose to wage war on the working class.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

A lot of people would care. At least around 70 million at last count.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And, for this discussion, they don't count. They would be mad at whatever Donald told them to mad about. Even if it's just the two minute hate.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you're going to kill Donald Trump and tell 70 million people they aren't allowed to be angry?

Good luck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never said kill all the MAGATts. I said they don't count in the "outrage" performance.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You said nobody would care if Trump was killed and then said his voters don't matter. That's a bit ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nobody that matters for the sake of this discussion.

[–] Maggoty 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No they matter a lot in this regard. Like, start a civil war a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

They are going to do that regardless of a pardon happening or not. Remember, they tried it 4 years ago, in our own little Beer Hall Putsch.

[–] mos 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm just saying that it scares me that we are all being pushed to the extremes; that I'm worried about what that means for us as a society. I'm also just trying to point out that these kinds of comments could be used against you, especially with someone in charge that has talked about going after his enemies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

It doesn't matter if it can be used against an enemy of Trump's.

Even if it was never said, Trump will just make something up.

And if you are worried now.... perhaps ypu should have listened to people sounding the alarms about it in 2007. Now, we are just reaching the end of the empire.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What do you mean by the presidential pardon thing that Trump invented?

"On July 1, 2024, the Court ruled in a 6–3 decision that presidents have absolute immunity for acts committed as president within their core constitutional purview, at least presumptive immunity for official acts within the outer perimeter of their official responsibility, and no immunity for unofficial acts"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States_(2024)#%3A%7E%3Atext=On+July+1%2C+2024%2C+the%2Cno+immunity+for+unofficial+acts.

You should also note how apparently all criminal cases against Trump were dropped when it became clear that he's the next president, for instance https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/11/26/how-all-of-trumps-criminal-cases-fell-apart-as-jack-smith-drops-federal-charges/

[–] mos 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the detailed response! I thought it might be that supreme court decision but I wasn't sure if I missed some other skullduggery.