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Volodymyr Zelenskyy has suggested a ceasefire deal could be struck if Ukrainian territory he controls could be taken "under the NATO umbrella" - allowing him to negotiate the return of the rest later "in a diplomatic way".

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 days ago (3 children)

That would really suck for the people under Russian occupation. But be really good for all the other people...

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago

Probably the best option left now that Trump will just throw him to the wolves

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641 1 points 3 days ago

I can only watch

[–] x00z 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It would probably come with the safe passage to Ukraine...

[–] Mirshe 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It won't. Russia ABSOLUTELY needs those people because they've thrown hundreds of thousands of able-bodied men (and, reportedly, a lot of less-than-able-bodied men as well) into the meatgrinder for this war. That's part of why they've taken the old imperial strategy of deporting a LOT of the people in conquered areas to areas away from the fighting - it's part to get them out of the way, but also part to divorce them from that area, and make it a HELL of a lot harder to get back there (if there's even a "there" to go back to).

In other words, "we know we shoved you and your family into a bus at gunpoint and dumped you in Siberia, but if you wanna go home, you'll need to find your own way. Also don't forget rent is due the 1st."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, and Russia was already facing a demographic crisis before the war. Its part of why they're kidnapping children.

[–] CitizenKong 8 points 5 days ago

Yep, they have an ongoing drug and AIDS crisis, and lost a lot of people to Covid since they only had their own vaccine, refusing other ones, which only worked in about half the cases though and which people were very sceptical of since the anti-vaccine propaganda on social media started by Russian bots to weaken the West backfired since Russians believed it as well.