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[+] [email protected] -13 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

I grew up on a dairy farm and we drank raw milk every day. I can remember my sisters bringing the milk pitcher to the barn and dipping into the bulk tank of raw milk every morning or so. No one got sick and no one died. We even made butter at home from it after separating the cream. But pasteurization is a good thing for all you urbane urbanites out there. It increases the shelf life and safety for consumption. Plus it reduces number of small dairies near population centers that used to exist. Dairies can be 100+ miles away now. After all, you wouldn't want to be exposed to the smell of cow shit right?

Raw milk does taste very different from store bought pasteurized milk, (whole milk ain't whole). And like shelf stable milk, I doubt anyone of you would like drinking it.

[–] Zomg 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

Those are also cows you personally owned and cared for. You knew their health, you knew their living conditions, and the milk wasn't produced soley (or maybe at all) for big corporate profits where production is the goal, and the animals well-being isn't.

I'm sure other people would be more supportive if the sources could be trusted, but that's difficult when you've seen how livestock is treated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

You do understand that ALL dairy farms that sell milk are regularly tested for safety of the milk they sell. This is federally mandated. You miss the thresholds for bacteria counts, you will be dumping all your milk produced until it tests clean again. So those cows can't be held in very dirty and vile conditions because your milk won't pass those mandated tests. Slackers go broke and are out of business in short order.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for selling pasteurized milk in stores. The milk you buy in the store can be a week old before you see it on the shelf. But the unreasoning fear of raw milk is just plain ridiculous.

[–] LaunchesKayaks 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

After surviving one pandemic, it's totally fair that some of us are a bit wary of raw milk now because multiple places have found bird flu in it. Judging us in the way you are isn't okay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

There was panic about raw milk looonnnggg before Covid. And I if you had read what I wrote, I did say pasteurization IS a good thing and I'm all for it. But it's just not the evil most think it is.

[–] enbyecho -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Judging us in the way you are isn’t okay.

But judging bluewing... totally ok?

More importantly: how are they judging again?

[–] LaunchesKayaks 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How was I judging? I was defending those of us who are concerned about the whole raw milk having bird flu thing. I was simply saying that those of us with concerns are valid in our feelings.

If you read all of bluewing's comments, the tone comes off, imo, as talking down to those of us who are concerned. Bluewing grew up on a dairy drinking raw milk every day and didn't get sick and seems to be exuding a sense of superiority because of it.. I also grew up on raw milk and didn't get sick from it. Doesn't make me less concerned over bird flu lol

[–] enbyecho -1 points 3 weeks ago

How was I judging?

If you read all of bluewing’s comments, the tone comes off, imo, as talking down to those of us who are concerned

And yet they specifically acknowledged the importance of pasteurization, etc, while simply saying in the right setting raw milk is tasty. That's not judging that's simply providing their perspective.

You are being overly sensitive and... IMO & LOL, "exuding a sense of superiority". Don't take it too seriously but I always find that basic hypocrisy - and I acknowledge we all do it - just so hilarious.

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